[kde-solaris] Re: Kde 3.3 for solaris sparc 8/9/10 with kdei18n uploaded

[Jaime Peñalba]

Stefan Teleman wrote:

>On Thursday 30 September 2004 04:27, Sergio Rodriguez de Guzman 
>Martinez wrote:
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>>Sun does NOT guarantee many things, but it does not mean that it
>>will NOT work.
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>In the case of Solaris 8, it does not work. And as a matter of 
>packaging policy, it is a good idea to listen to what the vendor says 
>or warns against.
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>>True or false, these packages work on Solaris 10. We'll check on
>>Solaris 8.
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>I said Solaris 8, i did not say Solaris 10. And as you say, it's 
>either true, or false, but not both. Solaris 8: false.
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As we dont use to work with solaris 8, and as we dont have too much free 
time, we would be very glad if you could test our release on solaris 8, 
and let us know about what is broken, later releases were compiled using 
libXrender that doesnt come with solaris 8, but last 2 releases we 
removed it, so we think it should at least work. As i said we would be 
very glad if you could really test it reporting us with errors.

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>>A long time... how many releases did you provide?
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>Read the kde-solaris archive starting in 2003.
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>>The *only* ?, and what about full i18n packages?, and not only GCC,
>>but GNU tools. If the packages work with solaris 10, why can't we
>>link 10 to 9? we explain in the readme that the packages where
>>built on Solaris 9.
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>Again, i am talking about Solaris 8 BC. I don't think using GNU tools 
>is a KDE feature. I use GNU tools too, and so does mostly everyone 
>who builds KDE. Ultimately i doubt any KDE user cares about this one. 
>May i ask what is the point of taking up so much disk space by 
>uploading the full i18n ? Building i18n does not require a compiler. 
>Anyone who is knowledgeable enough to install KDE on a Solaris box 
>knows how to build the i18n's they need.
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We never meant that using GNU tools were a KDE feature, but is true that 
kde developers use to code thinking mostly on gcc, and porting it to 
SunCC pro, is a hard work, and i dont really know if there is any 
performance difference between both compilers, but for me kde looks to 
run better compiled with gcc, i cannot say that this is true, is only a 
thought.

About full i18n releases, is really by comfort issues, i mean a c 
compiler isnt needed, but it needs make, autoconf, etc. Also it doesnt 
suppose any extra work for us because i18n compilation and packaging is 
automated. About the disk space, mostly of linux distributions are 
released with full i18n, so i dont see the problem, thats why the 8 and 
10 releases are symbolic links, due to disk space issues, we could 
rename all the packages to -sol8 and -sol10 but if the packages contains 
the same binaries is stupid.

Also suppose that if you install kde on solaris, you must know how to 
compile i18n isnt totally true, mostly of sun java programmers, use to 
work with windows, and they use solaris many times, at user level, so 
would be very nice to make an installer as sun's gnome 2 has.

>>BTW you must remember we are on the same team... or at last this
>>should be a team.
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>Yes and this is why i bring up the BIC problems with Solaris 8.
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We know that you are very carefully porting kde to sparc arch, trying to 
keep all the functionalities working, so we would appreciate very much 
any help with this, if you could send us your patches, only referred to 
functionality, not fot SunCC porting. We have problems with kdesu, and 
the screen lock, would be very nice if we could really work as a team in 
this issues, as we dont have to much time to spend on this, and we arent 
skilled c coders.


Jaime.

>>I love Monty Python, but any time I read this sentence as your
>>signature...
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>I would like to keep this thread on the topic of KDE and Solaris.
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>--Stefan
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