[kde-solaris] KDE 3.1.4 status update
laurent at elanor.org
Tue Sep 23 14:31:07 CEST 2003
Stefan Teleman wrote:
> Given the unpleasant amount of problems some of you seem to have had
> with the kderequired jumbo pkg and pkg relocation, i will build 3.1.4
> with RPATH disabled. This way, there will no hardcoded library paths
> into shared libraries or executables. On the flip side, this creates
> another little problem: LD_LIBARY_PATH has to be set, and it may end
> up being very long.
I thought using -R was just adding a first level of paths to look in at
Ie, you could leave it on, and if you don't have the given
-R/path/to/lib, but have the right lib somewhere either in crle(1) or
LD_LIBRARY_PATH, it would work?
That would allow people like me to have very long crle(1) or
LD_LIBRARY_PATH if they want to use their own compiled libs, and others
to just install Sunfreeware/Blastwave/KDErequired stuff and get away
> I will also try my very best to re-package kderequired into its
> separate components. That means there will be a _lot_ of individual
> packages to be installed, one by one. I guess i would call it a
> tradeoff in pain. :-) I don't know if this really is a better
> approach, i am only trying to make things easier. If you think it's a
> loser, please let me know. :-) It also means one extra week of delay
> in releasing, because i have to build these packages separately, one
> by one, and there's quite a few of them. :-(
I'm trying to do the same packages for my own use, and I understand the
Since it's my first try at packaging, I'm not sure I'm doing it the
right way, but it seems to work so far - just takes long :-)
> On the issue of why is kderequired really required: the truth is,
> mixing very aggressively optimized Forte generated code with gcc
> generated code (of which most of the time i cannot even determine how
> it was built) does not always work. gcc C++ and Forte C++ are not
> fully binary compatible with each other, especially at such high
> levels of specific UltraSPARC optimization. When i was working on my
> first try at KDE (early this year), i tried to use some gcc built
> libraries off the 'Net, and i gave up very soon, because of
> unpredictable behavior, which disappeared once i built everything
> with Forte.
I'm not a C++ specialist, but I'm *sure* that C++ ABIs are different
between Forte and GCC, and any other C++ compiler (I was explained why
recently on the solarisonintel list).
So Forte-built libs won't link with GCC-built binaries.
I guess that was one reason why Sun chose GNOME over KDE, since there is
less C++ there.
> Thank you so much to everyone for their kind support and feedback.
You're doing a great job, that's why :-)
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