[Kde-scm-interest] Project release tags on Gitorious

Chani chanika at gmail.com
Mon Nov 30 01:15:57 CET 2009


> 
> > -you won't be part of commit-filter, you won't be able to use BUG: or
> > CCMAIL: or any of those hooks until they're done.
> 
> This is a bummer, but we knew that going in, yes.
> 
> BTW, something I forgot to mention: Eli 'argonel'
> MacKenzie whom you might know from #kde-git and who
> has been present at the last few meetings about the
> git transition is a core developer at Konversation,
> so we've been trying to involve ourselves in the
> transition work already.
> 
> I've also done things like work a tiny bit on the
> CIA post-commit hook for SVN in the past, so I might
> be able to make myself useful on these kinds of
> things somehow.

yay :)

> 
> > -if you've got a docbook folder, remember to separate it out and leave it
> > somewhere in svn for the translators.
> 
> Our handbook is in extragear/network/docs right now; I
> had figured we'd leave it there, and whenever we announce
> a string and documention freeze on kde-i18n-doc we mention
> where the docs are. Sound good? Albert?

ah, so you're in the same boat as amarok there. mmkay.

> 
> > there are also social consequences - I think it'll create more pressure
> > to move to git before it's ready, and there'll be less pressure to
> > actually resolve that todolist. it also feels less "KDE" right now - we
> > don't have a kde page on gitorious or anything... or am I putting the
> > cart before the horse on that one? :)
> 
> Yes, the social consequences are perhaps the most worry-
> ing.
> 
> However, my take on this is this: Konversation is one of
> the oldest and most stable KDE Extragear projects around.
> Konversation has been around for 6 1/2 years now, and our
> mission has always been to be a KDE app and a champion
> for the KDE platform first and foremost. Having more
> "good old KDE stuff" on Gitorious can perhaps help in ma-
> king sure we successfully import our culture there. I
> would hate to see this as cutting any ties with KDE, I
> see it more as extending KDE to a new place. Our spiri-
> tual home will always be KDE, not Gitorious ;-).

:) good to hear.
perhaps that approach *can* work...

> 
> > so... if you think the move is worth it in spite of that, I won't try to
> > stop you. however, I really think it would be better for all of us if you
> > put pressure on (or volunteered to help with) fixing the technical issues
> > *first*.
> >
> >
> > all I ask is that you consider all the consequences before making a
> 
> decision.
> 
> Well, it's definitely not like "we need to be on Gito-
> rious by Monday!" We have a strong interest in not drag-
> ging things out until the end of time, but we also don't
> want to jump in over-hurriedly. This why I opened this
> thread on the tagging problem: We started to look into
> the consequences of moving now, and that was one of the
> problems we identified and that we wanted to talk about
> first.

ahh.
well, fwiw I plan to take a stab at organizing documentation again on december 
16th.

as for tagging... iirc it's a matter of balancing the need to do the 
occasional force-push vs. not wanting accidental forces to mess things up (er, 
*can* you force push by accident?). I think having force ability was compared 
to running as root.
I don't think we want everyone with commit access (people who've only 
committed a few things, people who are no longer around) to have that level of 
access freely, but I hope we can minimize the effort required to get it when 
needed. 

btw, are you setting reply-to or something? twice I almost emailed you instead 
of the list? :)

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