kde-quality Digest, Vol 24, Issue 15

[Iñaki]

El Miércoles, 25 de Enero de 2006 21:53, Vlad Blanton escribió:
> Hello all, I'm new to the list :)  Should have added myself to the list a
> long time ago...
>
> I like the *Recent apps part of the proposed layout. That way we won't have
> to search for the location of a new program for a few minutes each time
> something is installed. It might be nice to have something indicate where
> it is located within the *Programs menu like...
>
> *Recent apps
>    - Quanta Plus! (Web Development Environment) (Development)
>    - Firefox (Web Browser) (Internet)
>    - K3b (CD/DVD Burning) (Multimedia)
>    - Battle For Wesnoth (Strategy Game) (Games)
>    - KPresenter (Slide Presentations) (Office)
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> * PC....

But "Recent apps" exists since KDE 3.3 or KDE 3.4. It's not something 
new.   ;)




> Everything else is fine except for two things.
> 1. Having all programs within a separate menu instead of within the main
> menu is very *Windows* like and could raise complaints. Is there a
> different (aka new) and usable way we could do this?

Maybe, I agree.


> 2. Having *Session split off into a separate menu is not a good idea. The
> Logout/Restart/Shutdown buttons need to be easy to find and easy to click
> (without the chance of missing them and having to start all over again from
> the main menu!).  Having them within another menu can also be obscure and
> hard to find.

Yeeep, you are right.


Anyway, I don't like the actual Kmenu, it's too large. Why not separate in two 
each one with an icon in the panel?


First one: System:
*******************

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
 * PC
      - My Home
      - Devices
      - Remote Sites
 * Control Center
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
 * Find
 * Run Command
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
 * Switch User
 * Lock Session
 * Log Out...
--------------------------------------------------



The second one: Apps:
*************************

--------------------------------------------------
 * Internet
      - Web navigator
      - Kopete
      - Ktorrent
      - ...
 * Multimedia
      - amaroK
      - KMplayer
      - ...
 * Office
      - Kwrite
      - Kpdf (please, move it from "Image" menu)
...
--------------------------------------------------



Is it OK?  ;)



> Hope my input helps a bit.
>
> Vladislav Blanton
>
> On Wednesday 25 January 2006 11:57 am, Iñaki wrote:
> > El Miércoles, 25 de Enero de 2006 17:31, Jeremy escribió:
> > > Iñaki wrote:
> > > >Why not a simple menu like the following?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >------------------------------------------------
> > > > * Recents apps
> > > >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > > > * PC
> > > > * Programs
> > > > * Control Center
> > > >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > > > * Find
> > > > * Run Command
> > > >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > > > * Session
> > > >--------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >And those are the entries of each submenu:
> > > >
> > > >------------------------------------------------
> > > > * Recents apps
> > > >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > > > * PC
> > > >      - My Home
> > > >      - Devices
> > > >      - Remote Sites
> > > > * Programs
> > > >      - Internet
> > > >      - Multimedia
> > > >      - Office
> > > >      - ...
> > > > * Control Center
> > > >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > > > * Find
> > > > * Run Command
> > > >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > > > * Session
> > > >      - Switch User
> > > >      - Lock Session
> > > >      - Log Out...
> > > >--------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > This menu is very close to the proposition of the current Mandriva
> > > distribution. The only difference I see is that Mandriva proposes the
> > > KDE Control Center and the Mandriva Control Center.
> > > This to say  that it is  a good project for KDE to provide a powerful
> > > framework to create Control Center for system setting.
> > > But there is may be no need to give strict Control Center because all
> > > the distribution have to put inside how to modify their own
> > > specificities.
> >
> > This should be the proposal of KDE in the future: avoid the need of the
> > distributions of adding their own "Control Center". I don't know
> > Mandriva, but if they add a "Mandriva Control Center" maybe because the
> > "KDE Control Center" is not enough, that is true today.
> >
> > If a good and complete "KDE Control Center" exists, each distribution
> > should change only the "Install Software" module inside the "KDE Control
> > Center" (for Debian, Mandriva...) and modify some code because the
> > different locations of each distro (/etc directories and files, for
> > example).
>
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