Why do we report bugs?

Jesse Haubrich jesse.haubrich at gmail.com
Fri Apr 22 21:49:50 CEST 2005


Hey James, 

I'm new too, but I did find this. 

http://www.freedesktop.org/Standards/menu-spec

Hope it helps with your menus.

I find KDE is the friendliest and most helpful OSS community to be
involved with.  There is such a mature attitude here when compared to
other communities.  I have begun to suspect that, at 25, I'm the oldest
in most OSS communities (gnome). However, I don't get that feeling in
the KDE community.  

I think you judge these guys to harshly and expect too much sometimes.
We're all here to have fun. We're here because we get passionate about
building something. I guess what I'm saying is that in order to make
developers behave themselves and adhere strictly to standards we would
need authority figures :-0.  Pointy hair types with cat whips.  Then, I
fear the community would too closely resemble peoples jobs to attract
developers.

Hobbyists have a different motivation than employees. If you have it in
mind that your dealing with hobbyists then you may not have to watch
your blood pressure so closely ;)

Jesse

On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 17:04 -0700, James Richard Tyrer wrote:
> Carlos Leonhard Woelz wrote:
> > On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:58:18 -0700, "James Richard Tyrer"
> > <tyrerj at acm.org> said:
> > 
> >>We need to encourage and, even, nurture and mentor new apprentice 
> >>developers.
> > 
> > 
> > That's what we are doing here.
> 
> Yes, to some extent your intent appears to be to nurture new developers. 
>   But, I don't think that you intended this list for mentoring.  I 
> believe that I have made at least one request here that required a 
> mentor with no reply.  If you intended the list for mentoring, then we 
> have the usual problem, we need more mentors.  I can try to answer some 
> requests for mentoring and can do more as my knowledge increases.
> 
> KDE is lacking in developer documentation in some areas.  The Class 
> reference is quite good, but this doesn't explain how KDE works.  So, 
> apprentice developers or people new to KDE programing have questions for 
> which there is no Fine Manual to read for the answers.  Some mentoring 
> does occur on the kde-devel list.  However, people could progress faster 
> if they could get their questions answered when there is no documentation.
> 
> I am currently very frustrated that the new XML based menu system does 
> not have complete documentation.  IIUC, it doesn't even have a DTD.  I 
> mention this because that is where I am currently with KView.  I don't 
> know how to make the change that I want to make to the ToolBar(s).
> 
> So, what I need is a mentor to answer my questions about this, or direct 
> me to the documentation that I should read first, and provide guidance 
> about the correct way to do this.  I will be posting the question on the 
> kde-devel list and perhaps that will do it in this case.
> 



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