Regarding the quality of this mailing list

[Joost De Cock]

On Thursday 15 July 2004 00:59, Carlos Leonhard Woelz hurled the following on 
the wire:
>> On Wednesday 14 July 2004 05:11 pm, Kenny Smith wrote:
...
> > Also -- is this list FOR helping users/developers compile from CVS?  I
>
> Developers (contributors), yes. Users, no. (but is hard to tell, so we end
> up helping anyone who asks. The guy is already compiling KDE CVS, so he
> will be at least a tester). There is not so much traffic from these guys,
> and it is worth it.
>
> Compilation bugs, NO. Please no. If it is a real bug, not an newbie error,
> we should stop and say: there is a bug, try again in a couple of days.
> There was quite some traffic in the past about this. It should stop.
>
> > honestly have no way of telling.  If this list is meant for this sort of
> > thing, then maybe some changes are to be had?
>
> Don't you think it is important to help and encourage new contributors to
> build KDE for the first time? I think it is a great step towards being an
> active developer. It's a cultural shock for non programmers.


Since I'm a user (who wants to become a developer) who's currently trying to 
build KDE from CVS, I'd like to get a clear view on the do and do not  on the 
list.
Carlos has helped me out _A LOT_ lately, but I can't help feeling guilty for 
posting my cvs build questions after Kenny's remarks.

So, is it ok for a user (albeit one who's ambition is to contribute to the project) to turn to this list for help, and if it isn't, is there any other 
place to turn to?


An example, just today I was told (by who else then Carlos):
>compiling just before 
>the freeze is always hard :) People are running to beat the deadline, and it 
>is an error prone process. I can't compile kdelibs right now as well (for >another reason).

That may be obvious to someone who's involved, but for someone like me, it's 
not. And I'd like to see google turn up that answer when you start feeding it 
your error messages.

Looking forward to your opinions

joost


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