3_3_0_BETA_! Build problems [RESOLVED]

[Michael Pyne]

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On Tuesday 13 July 2004 23:46, James Richard Tyrer wrote:
> > I wonder why you dont realize just how *arrogant* your attitude does come
> > over.
>
> I believe that you have chosen the wrong word.  Yes, I an overbearing
> perfectionist (in short, I am Germanic).  But I do not meet the dictionary
> definition of arrogance:
>
> http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=arrogance&x=9&y=14

You do seem to meet the definition of a hair-splitter though. :-|

> -- I have identified the problem, which is that stuff is kicked out the
> door without adequate quality testing.  This project has become too large
> not to have some organized quality control.  People don't like the message
> so now you want to kill the messenger.

The message is OK, but you have a habit of delivering it in almost the worst 
possible way.  If the KDE Quality project is truly going to succeed, it will 
need the support of the developers.  You're not the only one who has ever had 
a bad day, and I think you should seriously keep that in mind before you 
start posting flames to the mailing lists.

Do you seriously think that the dream of every KDE dev was to release a beta 
that wouldn't build?  Of course not.  Although help is always appreciated, 
flames do nothing to help your message.

We all know that QC is important, and many developers go out of their way 
every day to fix little errors that prevent a clean build. But unless someone 
VOLUNTEERS to oversee QC, you can expect more of the same.  IMHO the "best" 
solution would be an auto-build mechanism, that could build KDE from scratch 
with different compilers, but to be fast enough, you'd need a build farm, 
which takes money.  The software would have to be written.  Someone would 
have to sysadmin the setup.  So like I said, if there's any volunteers, then 
by all means don't wait for the call to help.  It's already been given.

Regards,
 - Michael Pyne
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