[Gustavo Pichorim Boiko <boiko@mandriva.com>] Fwd: Re: 2006 Desktop - Second part

[Till Kamppeter]

Thank you for the report. I forward it to the KDE print developers, 
especially the new maintainer Cristian Tibirna.

    Till


Frederic Lepied wrote:
> You forgot Till...
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> Subject:
> Fwd: Re: 2006 Desktop - Second part
> From:
> Gustavo Pichorim Boiko <boiko at mandriva.com>
> Date:
> Fri, 1 Jul 2005 10:37:08 -0300
> To:
> kdeteam at mandriva.com
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> To:
> kdeteam at mandriva.com
> CC:
> flepied at mandriva.com, fcrozat at mandriva.com, joseph at lycoris.com, 
> cavassin at conectiva.com.br
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> Forwarding to everybody in the discussion...
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> Subject: Re: 2006 Desktop - Second part
> Date: Qui 30 Jun 2005 17:37
> From: Joseph Cheek <joseph at lycoris.com>
> To: Wanderlei Antonio Cavassin <cavassin at mandriva.com>
> Cc: Gustavo Pichorim Boiko <boiko at mandriva.com>
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> Hi,
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> I haven't spent a lot of time working on printing, actually, but I agree
> that it could use some improvements.  I've never had to mess with filters,
> but I have had plenty of issues with margins.  I'm having one right now,
> as a matter of fact.
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> i assume till only does backend printing stuff, not kdeprint?
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> Joe
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> --
> Joseph Cheek, CEO, Lycoris, joseph at lycoris.com
> Consultant to Mandriva, jcheek at mandriva.com
> Lycoris assets acquired by Mandriva!
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> On Thu, 30 Jun 2005, Wanderlei Antonio Cavassin wrote:
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>>Another one.
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>>[]s
>>Cavassin
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>>Em Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 09:55:08AM -0300, Gustavo Pichorim Boiko escreveu:
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>>>Hi
>>>
>>>Well, I've got more things now.
>>>
>>>First I would like to say that printing in linux is much far from being
>>>easy. Even when using KDE for that task.
>>>Why am I saying that?
>>>Because today I needed to print some papers here, and I've got the
>>>following: 1) The filter selection interface is not user friendly (it took
>>>me a considerable time to understand it correctly). You need to select a
>>>filter, then add it, the click on it in the applied filters list and then
>>>click on the configure button to adjust the properties. The filter I
>>>choose was the multiple pages per sheet one.
>>>2) Margin configuration is simply stupid, because it first apply the
>>>margin settings and then apply the filters. This is a big problem when
>>>using filters like the one I have used (multiple pages), because it
>>>inverts the orientation of the page (when you put two pages in a sheet),
>>>and then the botton of the page becomes unprintable (as my printer can't
>>>print in the last two centimeters of the page).
>>>3) If you want to preview the printing, you need to go to File->Print and
>>>then configure everything you need and choose the option for previewing
>>>instead of printing. That is not easy for the user. The worst part is that
>>>there is programs that have the print preview option (so for each
>>>application you have a different way of previewing the pages, that's bad).
>>>4) Now kdeprint is unmaintained (there is a volunteer for that if I
>>>remember correctly), and even when it was maintained it was not activelly
>>>developed.
>>>
>>>The server part of the printing process is getting better and better
>>>(because of cups, and so on), but we can't forget the client part (which
>>>is the part our users will see and directly interact with)
>>>
>>>I think this printing stuff is really important if we want to have a
>>>professional desktop.
>>>
>>>One more thing I was wondering is about the Lycoris software. From what I
>>>remember Lycoris has some desktop improvements and I think we should
>>>evaluate the software (if possible, of course) and take the good parts
>>>into 2006.
>>>
>>>One more time I would ask you to comment those ideas.
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>--
>>>Gustavo Pichorim Boiko
>>>--
>>>boiko @ mandriva . com
>>>Mandriva - http://www.mandriva.com
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