KDE e.V. transparency (was: Re: Voting rights - the GNOME way)

[Roberto Selbach Teixeira]

Is this still on-topic in this list? Perhaps talk about KDE e.V. should take 
place in some kde-ev-foobar list where the members can discuss their 
problems?

I'm not criticising anyone here, please don't misunderstand me. I'm just 
trying to find the focus of this list, which is AFAIK discussing policies.

In grumpy mood,

	Roberto.

On Wednesday 27 November 2002 08:29, Vadim Plessky wrote:
> On Wednesday 27 November 2002 5:27 am, Dirk Mueller wrote:
> |  On Mit, 27 Nov 2002, Rob Kaper wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> |  > Yes, *I* know the e.V. paid the ETAP hotel for LinuxTag last year
> |  > because I was there. But I am sure a lot of developers might not know
> |  > this, let alone KDE users considering to make a donation. Adding such
> |  > activities to the e.V. website would greatly help because it would
> |  > give some visibility. Just because a lot of active KDE developers
> |  > doesn't automatically give the body credibility. The e.V. could do
> |  > better to promote itself.
> |
> |  Note that while it is great to have people being reimbursed for such
> | things, but KDE's financial status is not good enough to reimburse
> | everybody for every work they do for KDE. Because after all, we're free
> | software and don't get any money for KDE releases.
> |
> |  For example I've spend several hundred EURs on traveling "for KDE" as
> | well and while it made my small budget even smaller (I have no regular
> | income), I was still able to afford it.
>
> That's why KDE e.V. should be more transparent, and put more info on the
> web. We should get not only "spending reports" but also "requests for
> help", that's the best way to get some help, IMO.
> For example:  if I know that Dirk Mueller needs several hundreds of Euro
> for travelling on KDE's behalf, or KDE needs new server - I (and other
> people) may consider to help with funding this.
>
> I am also surprised to hear that you don't have regular income.
> (I thought that you are employed by one of the KDE-friendly companies)
> I understand that KDE e.V. can't fund *every KDE developer*, but com'on,
> you are Release Coordinator for KDE 3.x, there are 6 releases in KDE 3.0.x
> series and KDE 3.1 is coming.
> If I was KDE e.V. member /probably I should apply, as we really miss some
> energy there/, I would strongly vote for financial support for you
> (until we found better way to fund you)
> So far I failed to get financial (or hardware donation) support for KDE
> from several companies I was talking to.  But I keep trying ;-)
> I don't have job at a moment, but 2 out of 3 positions I am currently
> applying to would allow me at least *tell* about such possibility, without
> risk of being fired next day.
>
> Cheers,