kmail serious problems

Kevin Ottens ervin at kde.org
Mon Feb 6 10:07:18 GMT 2023


Hello,

On Monday, 6 February 2023 09:35:52 CET Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> On Montag, 6. Februar 2023 08:49:41 CET Kevin Ottens wrote:
> > On Sunday, 5 February 2023 23:42:21 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> > I'm telling all this because it looks like something is *really* rotten
> > somewhere in our POP3/Maildir story. Asking people to just switch to IMAP
> > is unrealistic though, there are valid uses for POP3.
> 
> The other side of the coin is that expecting developers (which developers?)
> who are using IMAP exclusively to put an extra amount of their unpaid spare
> time into keeping POP3 support in good condition is also unrealistic.

Sorry if I made it sound different earlier. But I totally agree with that of 
course.

> I think the POP3 support never really recovered from the switch to Akonadi
> as backend and that's because all involved developers have used IMAP almost
> exclusively since ages.

I wonder if I should force myself to go back to POP3 then... not that I really 
want to since I just appreciate the services of IMAP...

> Additionally, to this KMail has effectively 0 developers and 1/10
> maintainers. Laurent is doing an inhuman job but he
> maintains large parts of PIM and, currently, does KF6 porting in
> uncountable other KDE projects.
> 
> If you want to stay with KMail, then I recommend that you set up a local
> dovecot to bridge POP3 to IMAP. I have done this for a couple of unimportant
> POP3 accounts many years ago and it's been working flawlessly for years
> now.

The thing is that we're not doing a very good job at communicating this to the 
outside then. If POP3 is really that broken and it's known, maybe support 
should be removed? Or at least prevent users to create new POP3 setups?

Otherwise people think it's supposed to work and then think KMail is low 
quality, which I think is very far from the truth.

Regards.

PS: That being all said, my spouse is using KMail POP3 support happily. Less 
volume of mail and many less filters of course. I confess I wish she had 
troubles with it sometimes... then I'd have something manageable to try to 
debug. But luckily for a pacified home it just works.
-- 
Kevin Ottens, http://ervin.ipsquad.net

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