Kmail: Gmail (less secure apps) advice for GNU emacs developers.

Adriaan de Groot groot at
Thu Aug 13 09:26:45 BST 2020

Hi Uwe,

On Monday, 10 August 2020 18:02:34 CEST Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote:
> On Montag, 10. August 2020 09:12:12 CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Uwe Brauer - 10.08.20, 09:02:15 CEST:
> > > The issue concerns an announcement by the gmail developers to drop the
> > > option to connect to their IMAP service via name and password, known
> > > as less-secure-apps. The main email reader of GNU Emacs, called gnus
> > > relies on this method. Someone on the GNU emacs developer list
> > > suggested that kmail solved the problem and is able to connect to the
> > > GMAIL imap server using their OAuth2 method.
> I would recommend  anyone concerned with privacy rights to not use Gmail.
> OAuth2 is just a way for Google to force people to use Google Chrome for
> logging into google services.

There's an intransparent and arbitrary vetting process in place, where Google 
approves an application's access to Google services. 

I blogged about the issue, on behalf of Dan Vratil who was doing the actual 
work of dealing with Google,

I'm sure Dan could describe the process in more detail, but it (slightly 
cynically) comes down to this:

- you will need a Google account *for the application developer*,
- this application needs some API keys,
- this application needs a privacy policy,
- the application + policy must be submitted to the arbitrary process,
- wait anywhere from 3 days to 6 months,
- possibly the application will be allowed to connect to Google services.

There is code in KDE-PIM somewhere that does the actual API-key-wrangling, 
that's not really the issue.

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