[Kde-pim] Does KDE PIM development need focusing?

[Martin Steigerwald]

Am Dienstag, 24. Februar 2015, 23:24:33 schrieb Ingo Klöcker:
> Hi all,

Hi Ingo,

> it's great to see the new enthusiasm for KDE PIM development, e.g. with
> akonadinext.
> 
> Reading the "akonadinext update" thread with its discussion about mail
> filtering and spam filtering I somehow got the feeling that something is
> wrong. That we are maybe trying to solve a problem in the client that
> shouldn't be solved in the client. Yes, some people need client-side
> filtering so we cannot not offer client-side filtering. But we need to
> ask the question whether it's worth implementing a complicated solution
> for those poor souls.
> 
> This made me thing of the "vision" thread (from November last year, but
> I've read it only some days ago) on kde-community.
> 
> So, now I'm asking myself (and you) whether we should focus KDE PIM
> development by targeting a specific group of users for the upcoming
> larger improvements like akonadinext, so that we can more easily make
> decisions. At least, initially. I can name three sufficiently distinct
> groups of users: * corporate users
> ** use central mail server (w/ server-side filtering capabilities and
> centralized virus and spam filtering)
> * private power users
> ** access their mail accounts from multiple machines
> ** often use server-side filtering

Heh, I am a private power user, and I still use mainly POP3 with maildirs. 
Partly because migrating that setup to a server is a lot of work. I 
started with it using Dovecot with Managesieved. Partly due to not wanting 
to have years of mails on the server. Not even on one I administrate.

I think I will switch to IMAP once I managed to finish my server side 
setup. But I will still store older mails locally. On the other hand, now 
with copying all my inbound mail to two users on the mailserver and 
accessing one via POP3 and the other via IMAP on the smartphone and 
limiting the IMAP account to 30 days with find -type f -mtime +29 -delete 
it works well enough.

> * normal private users
> ** use a single computer for reading their mail
> ** mostly use client-side filtering (or no filtering at all)

I´d think most of them would use IMAP and webmail these days – but this 
may change given the recent privacy threats. Well, for my father I setup a 
POP3 access with keeping mails some time on the server for his new tablet 
to access them via IMAP, but with Icedove as he had Thunderbird before on 
Windows. And yes, currently he has no filtering, but I consider to configure 
him some filters for regular mails some time. Well for now I just created 
some folders and moved mails to them manually. His inbox doesn´t fill that 
quickly anyway.

I think giving users control over their data by allowing them to store at 
least old mails locally for example is important. And also by making it 
transparent to the user where their data is stored.

Ciao,
-- 
Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de
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