[Kde-pim] kdepim in KDE Applications 14.12

[Aleix Pol]

On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Christian Mollekopf <chrigi_1 at fastmail.fm>
wrote:

> On Friday 31 October 2014 13.40:24 laurent Montel wrote:
> > Le Friday 31 October 2014 11:47:57 David Jarvie a écrit :
> > > On Thu, October 30, 2014 8:24 pm, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > > > El Dijous, 30 d'octubre de 2014, a les 20:41:43, laurent Montel va
> > > >
> > > > escriure:
> > > >> Le Thursday 30 October 2014 20:16:23 Albert Astals Cid a écrit :
> > > >> > El Dijous, 30 d'octubre de 2014, a les 13:36:28, Kevin Ottens va
> > > >>
> > > >> escriure:
> > > >> > > On Thursday 30 October 2014 08:14:03 laurent Montel wrote:
> > > >> > > > Le Thursday 30 October 2014 01:19:27 Albert Astals Cid a
> écrit :
> > > >> > > > > Hi guys, so Laurent said that for KDE Applications 14.12 we
> > > >>
> > > >> should
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > ship
> > > >> > > > > 4.x based versions of kdepim*
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Which brings me to the question, when releasing KDE
> > > >> > > > > Applications
> > > >> > > > > 14.12
> > > >> > > > > should i branch KDE/4.14 to Applications/14.12 and release
> that
> > > >>
> > > >> or
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > should
> > > >> > > > > we keep using the KDE/4.14 branch?
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > For me it will better to use KDE/4.14 branch.
> > > >> > > > Really I have 4.14 branch + master branch for
> > > >> > > > kdepimlibs/kdepim/kdepim-runtime and I don't want to download
> a
> > > >>
> > > >> new
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > branch.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > It's more easy for me to merge in 4.14 that merge in 4.14 +
> 14.12
> > > >> > > > branch
> > > >> > > > and after master
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > I guess if you go for 14.12 then the 4.14 branch would get
> > > >>
> > > >> discontinued?
> > > >>
> > > >> > Correct.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > You'd probably still have one branch to deal with, just not the
> > > >> > > same
> > > >>
> > > >> one
> > > >>
> > > >> > > anymore.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > One thing is that by continuing to ship 4.14 branch (instead of a
> new
> > > >> > 14.12) we'd highlight more than this is pure maintaince instead of
> > > >>
> > > >> "any
> > > >>
> > > >> > new feature".
> > > >> >
> > > >> > For example for kdelibs we're just going to ship KDE/4.14.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Now the question, is kdepim* not based in kf5 going to be pure
> > > >>
> > > >> maintiance
> > > >>
> > > >> > for now?
> > > >>
> > > >> No dev until now just maintiance.
> > > >
> > > > If it's going to be just maintaince i think i actually prefer not
> having
> > > > a14.12 branch and just using a longer lived KDE/4.14
> > > >
> > > > Is that fine for you guys?
> > >
> > > Until all the kdepim applications are released for kf5, I don't think
> that
> > > the KDE 4 branch should be restricted to maintenance only.
> >
> > I am against that there is new feature in kde4 kdepim.
> > Otherwise I will need to port all to kf5.
> > So no, kde4 branch is closed for new features.
> >
> > Otherwise nobody will work on kf5 and for the moment there is just me
> which
> > works on kf5 kdepim.
> >
> > For new string changes you can ask to kde-doc to allow a new string.
> >
>
> IMO it wouldn't be a problem to allow new features in 4.14, but of course
> it's
> the responsibility of the person that adds the feature to ensure it makes
> it
> into master. It clearly shouldn't be your responsibility (or any single
> person's for that matter), to port other peoples features.
>
> I'd rather allow some new features in 4.14 to keep people happy, than rush
> a
> release of a KF5 based solution. Even though you're currently paving the
> way
> mostly alone for the rest of us (thanks!), we'll definitely move to the
> next
> version when we get to it =)
>
> Cheers,
> Christian


To be honest, I don't really understand this over-conservatism towards Qt5.
It needs to be adopted, the port is quite forward, as you get to use
KDELibs4Support.

I don't think Laurent talked about rush at all. He said he wants features
in master which is Qt5 and that makes total sense to me.

FWIW, you cannot allow new features in 4.14, you can have a 4.15 if you
wish, but 4.14 was frozen longtime ago [1].

Aleix

[1]
https://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.14_Release_Schedule#Wednesday.2C_June_25.2C_2014:_KDE_SC_4.14_Feature_Freeze
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