[Kde-pim] KCal with KABC and maintainers?

[Christian Mollekopf]

Hi Mark,

I'm not really sure how far the sharing could go but there are a couple of 
classes that could potentially be shared.

One thing to keep in mind is that KABC and KCalCore cater the needs of two 
different RFC's, the iCalendar RFC for KCalCore and the vCard RFC for KABC.
So if logic is shared it must be done in a compatible way, respectively we 
need to be able to store all the information within vCard and iCalendar.

I should also mention that there is an effort going on in the teleptathy 
community to create a new library for modeling persons (I think it's called 
libkpeople, Martin Klapetek is the one to contact). This library should also 
help to model real world persons, which may have several "Contact Cards". That 
makes it possible to merge i.e. the same person you have once on gmail, once 
in a vcard and once in a kolab resource. I'm not aware in what state that 
library is and how it is going to look exactly, but it *might* even be a 
successor of kabc.

Last but not least, I'd like to avoid too close coupling between the two 
libraries (kabc and kcalcore), I'm rather interested in keeping the 
dependencies as low as possible (In the longterm I'd like to see a standalone 
kcalcore library). If we had the shared classes in a pim-support library 
(within kdepimlibs) on which both KABC and KCalCore depend I don't see a 
problem though.

I think the bottomline is that this is going to need quite a lot of thought, 
and we should first line out what benefits we actually get from such an effort.

It really don't mean to discourage you though, so if you can come up with a 
couple of ideas how the situation could be improved, I would gladly work with 
you on those. Note that I'm not a maintainer of any of said codeparts, so I'm 
only speaking for myself. Also we need to stay binary compatible, so it's 
probably more a KDE 5 thingy.

Cheers,
Christian


On Wednesday 02 May 2012 22.23:22 Mark wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Mark <markg85 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 2012/4/16 Sérgio Martins <iamsergio at gmail.com>
> > 
> >> On Sunday, April 15, 2012 04:03:51 PM Mark wrote:
> >> > One thing i found a bit strange was KABC::Addressee and KCal::Attendee
> >> > (which inherits KCal::Person). This "seems" redundant to me as KDE has
> >> > a address book that uses KABC (assumption!) yet the KCalendar uses it's
> >> 
> >> own
> >> 
> >> > person data.. Perhaps it might be worth to use KABC inside KCal?
> >> 
> >> You'll have to ask the original authors.
> >> I do know that some non-kde projects that use KCalCore don't want an
> >> extra lib
> >> dependency and that class is rather trivial.
> > 
> > I did and they pointed me to this list.
> > But since KCal is deprecated, the same question applies for KCalCore which
> > you can probable answer as the maintainer ^_^
> > 
> >> > A maintainer question. Who is currently in charge of the following
> >> > components specifically:
> >> > KAlarmCal (KAlarm app and
> >> > http://api.kde.org/4.x-api/kdepimlibs-apidocs/kalarmcal/html/index.html
> >> > which seems kinda redundant since we also have
> >> 
> >> http://api.kde.org/4.x-api/kdepimlibs-apidocs/kcal/html/classKCal_1_1Alar
> >> m.h>> 
> >> > tml )
> >> 
> >> David Jarvie ?
> >> 
> >> > KCalendar (the app, but also the class KCal and KCalCore)
> >> 
> >> KCalendar: I don't know, never heard of this application
> > 
> > It's part of KOrganizer http://userbase.kde.org/KOrganizer but i might
> > have mixed up K and C this time ;)
> > 
> >> KCal: is deprecated.
> > 
> > Why isn't it marked as deprecated in the documentation?
> > And shouldn't it be deleted for KDE Frameworks 5.0
> > 
> >> KCalCore: is maintained by me and Allen Winter.
> >> 
> >> > KAddressBook (the app and KABC)
> >> 
> >> Used to be Tobias ( tokoe ), not sure if he's still the maintainer.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Regards,
> >> Sérgio Martins
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> 
> Could anyone respond on the suggestion to use KABC within KCalCore?
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