[Kde-pim] From a users point of view ....

[Martin Steigerwald]

Am Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2012 schrieb Denny:
> Am Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2012, 13:52:45 schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
> > Dear Denny,
> > 
> > Am Dienstag, 21. Februar 2012 schrieb Denny:
> > > I could spent the whole day fixing new appearing Errors and Crashes
> > > of kde - pim.
> > > Is this just broken by design or why isn't there a working email
> > > client for at least 4 years?
> > > I thought with KDE 4.7.x we were over it and at least basic things
> > > kinda worked stable again.
> > > With KDE 4.8 now - nothing is working anymore, just to name a few
> > > things annoying one one on a daily basis:
> > > - Filters: broken
> > > - Crashes : several per day
> > > - email Addresses not recognised as you type
> > > - password management : broken
> > > - several empty windows popping up from ktimetracke at login ....
> > > 
> > > Am I supposed to create a new profile each and every time I upgrade
> > > to a new version and scrap all my data?
> > 
> > I understand your frustration.
> > 
> > I also find it highly frustrating when software I do use for daily
> > work does not work as I expect.
> > 
> > While I understand your feelings I do think that the accusing tone I
> > perceive in your mail does not contribute in any way to make your
> > experience better.
> > 
> > So by any means there is nothing wrong with your feelings. Feel them,
> > express them.
> > 
> > But please do not accuse anyone else for the pain you suffer.
> > 
> > Some of your options to get a different experience are in my opinion:
> > 
> > 1) Ask how you can help to make it happen that KDEPIM 2 holds up to
> > your expectations.
> 
> I that.

?
 
> > 2) Use a different mail client.
> 
> While I really liked kontact and believe in the idea to share data
> across various applications, I would not like leave, like many people
> did in last month.
> Besides that, unfortunately it's not that easy. Besides the hassle to
> get everything transfered and set up, and learned to use it - there is
> just not much choice:
> 1. Outlook : windows only
> 2. Apple Mail : yep, this is my backup email program when kontact
> doesn't work. btw: version upgrades no problem, slick ,easy nice to
> use , but mac os only
> 3. evolution : hm, maybe
> 4. thunderbird : if nothing else exists, but looks relly ugly under kde
> and cluttered
> 5. Lotus Notes :
> 6. Chandler : looks very interesting and promising - not develped
> anymore since 2009
> ....
> I spent some time the past few days searching for an alternative, so, I
> would love find one.

Did I get it right that you think that all other mail clients are even 
less suitable for you? Are they broken by design?

Sorry could not resist this one.

That aside:

How about KDEPIM 4.4.5? You should be able to use your existing data with 
it.

> > 3) Or use a distro that means stable when saying stable such as
> > Debian Stable.
> > A distro that still carries KDEPIM 1 as of 4.4.5. Even the
> > development branches of Debian namely Wheezy and Sid - when you feel
> > adventurous - seem to be rather stable to me and still carry KDEPIM 1
> > for now. With Debian Stable you can still use KDEPIM 1 for at least
> > one and a half year, in my estimation at least two years to come. Of
> > cause there may be other distributions like maybe Centos that may
> > carry old KDEPIM even longer.
> 
> Chancing a distro is not really an option, although they are all linux,
> there are still differences one has to get used to again.

Doing a decision to relieve your frustration with KDEPIM 2 by using 
another distro with KDEPIM 1 or using a different mail client is not an 
option for you?

Then I see two options for you:

1) Try to compile KDEPIM 4.4.5 for yourself.

2) Help to make KDEPIM 2 rock for you.

You might not know the exact steps for any of the two options, but I am 
sure they can be learned.

But insisting on "I am not willing to change" while demanding that KDEPIM 
developers make your KDEPIM life comfortable again will not help you much 
in my opinion.

Don´t get me wrong. I do think its important to stabilize KDEPIM 2. But 
from what I can see KDEPIM and Nepomuk developers are already working on 
it. If you want to speed up the process either help or pay for 
developments and bugfixing. Otherwise it will take the time it takes until 
KDEPIM 2 is ready and no repeated complaining here will contribute 
anything to reduce that time by even one second.

If you found a new issue that is not yet reported or known by all means 
report it, but otherwise either help, bear with it or use an older KDEPIM 
release or another mail client.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de
GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA  B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7
_______________________________________________
KDE PIM mailing list kde-pim at kde.org
https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-pim
KDE PIM home page at http://pim.kde.org/