[Kde-pim] KDEPIM Needs More TIme

[Martin Steigerwald]

Am Donnerstag 03 Juni 2010 schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
> Hi Ingo et al,
> 
> Am Freitag 14 Mai 2010 schrieb Ingo Klöcker:
> > On Friday 14 May 2010, Allen Winter wrote:
> > > Howdy All,
> > > 
> > > I regret to inform everyone that kdepim will not be ready for a 4.5
> > > Beta1 that is scheduled to happen in a few days.
> > > 
> > > We estimate an extra month will be needed.
> > > 
> > > Unfortunately, the massive porting effort to Akonadi (an even
> > > bigger job than the Qt3/KDE3 -> Qt4/KDE4 port) is taking longer
> > > than we anticipated.
> > > 
> > > So, we have a couple of choices:
> > > 1) insert a 1 month long "alpha" [1], thereby delaying 4.5.0 by 1
> > > month
> > > 2) keep kdepim out of 4.5.0 and release it separately 1 month
> > > later
> > > 3) keep kdepim out of 4.5.0 and release it again for 4.6.0
> > > 
> > > Of course, I'd opt for choice 1.
> > > But there is simply no way we can put kdepim out there even in a
> > > beta at this time.
> > 
> > My suggestion (as an outsider) is to opt for choice 3 or, more
> > precisely, to opt for the following variant of 3:
> > - Take the time until 4.6.0 to make the Akonadi port of kdepim rock.
> > - Move current trunk/KDE/kdepim to a branch.
> > - Copy current branches/KDE/4.4/kdepim to trunk, i.e. revive kdepim
> > 4.4 for KDE SC 4.5.
> > - Probably keep kaddressbook trunk.
> > - Optionally, spend the time until 4.5.0 to fix the most annoying
> > shortcomings in kdepim 4.4.
> 
> I would suggest improvements to KAdressBook and Akonadi for KDE 4.5
> already, and keeping out KMail 2. Thus doing it *one step at a time*.
> First stabilize Akonadi based KAddressBook and then introduce KMail 2 -
> that I am really looking forward too.
> 
> I find especially the following bug very annoying:
> 
> often does not find resource agents on first start of Kontact
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=236538
> 
> This just gave the impression of alpha/beta quality software to me. And
> thats in KDE 4.4.3!
> 
> For me it helped to run "akonadictl start" via KRunner before starting
> Kontact, but everytime I forget this I have to quit Kontact and restart
> it again.
> 
> Another issue I found is that something KAddressBook doesn't show any
> contact entry contents anymore. The list is still there, but if I click
> on a contact its details are not displayed. There are no error
> messages, just a blank page. I did not report it yet due to lack of
> time and due to that I could not make up a pattern in this yet.
> 
> Also there has been a lot of resentment against having a MySQL server
> running for each KDE user, for example on debian-kde.
> 
> So if a SQLite based Akonadi would be ready for KDE 4.5, even if just
> for KAddressBook, this would be an improvement that quite some users
> may receive very well.

I read

"KDEPIMLIBS is not affected, it will be released together with KDE SC 4.5.0 
as planned. The rest of KDEPIM progressed very nicely: Tobias fixed a lot 
of problems in KAddressbook and brought back some missed features. The 
Akonadi port of KOrganizer is also working quite well. However, releasing 
KDEPIM without KMail is not an option, as it is a quite important part of 
the PIM suite. We briefly pondered replacing KMail with an older version 
for the release, but that would involve ripping apart and moving around 
the dependencies, which is a lot of work and has a high risk of 
regressions. I think delaying the release is the best option here, as it 
gives us some more time for stabilizing without too many downsides."

from

http://thomasmcguire.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/akonadi-meeting-and-the-kde-
sc-4-5-release/

Okay, so that answers it.

Well if its one month / two month after KDE 4.5 SC I can bear with it.

Some fix to bug #236538 for KDE 4.4.5 so that for example Debian Squeeze 
will get it, still would be fine. I am thinking about filing a Debian bug 
report about this, as I think that behaviour is not suitable for Debian 
Stable.

Ciao,
-- 
Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de
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