[Kde-pim] Proposal for a new pim application
Christian Mollekopf
chrigi_1 at fastmail.fm
Thu Oct 22 10:41:06 BST 2009
On Thursday 22 October 2009 10:56:46 Stephen Kelly wrote:
> Christian Mollekopf wrote:
> > On Wednesday 21 October 2009 12:39:55 you wrote:
> >> On Wednesday 21 October 2009 11:21:10 Christian Mollekopf wrote:
> >> > I'm not yet quite sure if i got the concepts correctly, but as i
> >> > understand it, i would get all mails, existing todos, events (as soon
> >> > as korganizer is ported to akonadi), from akonadi. While for
> >> > presentation of the stored data (filtering), and all the tagging
> >> > functionality nepomuk should be used.
> >> >
> >> > KJots seems to be bound to the idea of folders and files, which is
> >> > pretty exactly NOT what i want, although i heard of plans to move it
> >> > as well to nepomuk (so i'm of course open to work together also
> >> > there).
> >>
> >> This sounds like it's a combination or similar to Basket with some
> >> elements
> >> of KJots or KNotes in there too.
> >
> > I had a look at all of them, and none of them is what i need (although i
> > use kjots quite a lot), but of course i agree that we should avoid to
> > duplicate any functionality.
> >
> > I think with the application i have in mind kjots could be easily
> > emulated, by making a treeview of tags. But i seems to me that the code
> > is a bit bound to this book/sheet structure atm, so a serious refactoring
> > would be needed.
>
> Over the next few weeks I'm porting kjots to Akonadi and removing lots of
> the old code. By the end of it, it will be possible to share data between
> desktop sticky notes and kjots, effectively replacing knotes.
>
> I also want to see what collaboration we can get with semnotes and spoke to
> Laura Dragan at GCDS about it. She wasn't opposed to the idea, but I'm not
> sure she liked the idea of a Akonadi dependency.
>
> If we can get basket on board too that would be a win. By using Akonadi
> Attributes I think we can satisfy the needs of all applications (ordering,
> position on desktop, association in basket) without disrupting the other
> applications.
>
> I have started on the road of using MIME messages as the notes. By using
> that there are obvious ways of getting pictures, sounds etc into the note
> data.
>
> All the best,
>
> Steve.
Yay, this sounds like a perfect base for what i want to do.
I think we can use pretty much the same building blocks to server both
systems, maybe a different gui is needed.
Until this base is in place, please tell me if i can help you somwhere.
I'd be interested to get in touch a bit with the code.
Cheers,
Chris
>
> > For the whole todolist i anyway wanted to directly interact with
> > korganizer todos via akonadi.
> >
> > Basket goes into a similar direction, but looks a bit too standalone for
> > me, while the new application would add little extra features but is more
> > or less just a wrapper around existing things.
> >
> > KOrganizer should have as primary interface a calendar, while this
> > application has one showing information. Behind i really want to share as
> > much code as possible (and also the akonadi items for events, todos, ...)
> >
> > Thanks for ideas =)
> >
> >> Personally, I'd rather see you improve those applications to allow your
> >> workflow (for instance KOrganizer has loads of different workflows
> >> already) rather than adding another PIM application that duplicates
> >> functionality.
> >>
> >> Nice ideas though, good luck with them!
> >
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