[Kde-pim] Fwd: Re: tagging in KDEPim

[Sebastian Trüg]

On Wednesday 06 December 2006 14:55, Allen Winter wrote:
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> On Wednesday 06 December 2006 00:11, Allen Winter wrote:
> > [[ Sebastian, are you subscribed to kde-pim?  Or should we CC you
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I am subscribed but it seems that I send the reply to the wrong address. I 
always use the "l" shortcut without double checking the receipients.


> > On Tuesday, December 5, 2006 06:02:20 PM Tom Albers wrote:
> > > Op di 5 dec 2006 17:59 schreef u:
> > > > How does the tagging work? In particular, how well does it work
> > > > across different machines?  I work a lot on my laptop, and probably
> > > > even more on my office machine. I definitely don't want to have
> > > > different tagging on these machines.
> > >
> > > A brief look at http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=36322
> > > looks like it is not storing it on the imap server meaning you can not
> > > see the labels on another machine. (but it was only a brief look, could
> > > be wrong).
> >
> > Correct.
> > But I'm missing why it is such a big issue.
> > The tags are stored in the mail index.
> >
> > > If this is true,
> > > I would not advise to port it to KMail, but that is just mho.
> >
> > How does Nepomuk work?
>
> Ok, well the Nepomuk system intends to realize meta information (this
> includes tags and annotations for starters) accross applications on the
> desktop and accross a p2p network (but that is for later). The data is
> stored in a local RDF store so no, it would not directly use IMAP tagging.
> But it would not be a problem to sync the tags in Nepomuk with the IMAP
> tags to be able to do things like a fast desktop search for tags which
> would then return emails, files, contacts, whatever you want. The thing is
> that with Nepomuk we don't want to tag ONLY emails but everything there is
> on the desktop (I am starting with the most obvious, i.e. files and emails
> though).
>
> So the idea is to store the email tags in the RDF store from KMail (that is
> actually very simple:
>
> Nepomuk::KMetaData::EMail email( <imapid> );
> email.addTag( "sometesttag" );
>
> and you are done. Auto syncing takes care of everything else. So adding
> Nepomuk tagging support in addition to native IMAP tags would be very
> simple and have the advantage of having this information available all over
> the desktop.
>
> > > > So the tags somehow should be stored on the server (IMAP
> > > > annotations?)
> > >
> > > Yes. Imap supports labels, just like "deleted" is nothing more than a
> > > label. Thunderbird and another mail client (*cough*) support this.
> > > Which is also convenient when you have a shared folder and want to
> > > easily devide the mails between more people.
> >
> > But what about us non-IMAP folks?
> >
> >
> > Honestly, I don't know much about this subject, other than the fact that
> > I like to be able to set custom tags and I really want to be able to have
> > virtual search folders representing a collection of messages belonging
> > to a custom tag.  And it would be great to be able to have similar tags
> > across the various PIM apps (knode, akregator, etc)
>
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