Babe project - Legal feedback

[Camilo Higuita Rodriguez]

I will get in touch with the kde e.v.
I just want to make clear that I wouldn't implement such system without
discussing it beforehand with the community.
This is just an open discussion I wanted to have to get feedback.

The platform I'm working on so far has nothing to be sorry about, legally.

Camilo

On Feb 3, 2018 5:27 PM, "Albert Astals Cid" <aacid-RoXCvvDuEio at public.gmane.org> wrote:

> El dissabte, 3 de febrer de 2018, a les 21:26:24 CET, Nicolás Alvarez va
> escriure:
> > 2018-02-03 17:07 GMT-03:00 Albert Astals Cid <aacid-RoXCvvDuEio at public.gmane.org>:
> > > El dissabte, 3 de febrer de 2018, a les 18:07:27 CET, Camilo Higuita
> > > Rodriguez>
> > > va escriure:
> > >> Hi,everyone
> > >>
> > >> I'd like to discuss something with the community, and maybe get some
> > >> legal
> > >> input:
> > >>
> > >> As some of you might already know I'm working on a open online
> platform
> > >> to
> > >> share music information between users, such as public playlists,
> comments
> > >> on tracks and on the playback progress like soundcloud, share popular
> > >> music
> > >> suggestions, metadata, and discovery of new music from another users
> with
> > >> integration with YouTube and Spotify etc... the platform will be
> > >> integrated
> > >> into Babe music player and could be use in any other music player
> > >>
> > >> The legal matter comes here:
> > >> 1- I would like to either have the option to *stream live* the music
> an
> > >> user is currently listening to to a group of friends. here the music
> file
> > >> isn't being storaged in the audience computer...
> > >> How ilegal is it? How illegal is to stream live, but privately,
> > >> copyrighted
> > >> music?  and how illegal is it to stream owns music content to a
> selected
> > >> group of friends?
> > >>
> > >> 2- If the stream part wouldn't be enought problem, I'd also like to
> sync
> > >> a
> > >> user playlist marked as public to some other friends, that would mean
> to
> > >> share music files between users, and technically downloading another
> > >> users
> > >> music files. How illegal is this part? how illegal is to share a music
> > >> file
> > >> for example, in a conversation in telegram or whatsapp, or even how
> > >> illegal
> > >> is it to send a mp3 to a friend over an email or even over google
> drive?
> > >>
> > >> I'd like to get feedback about this issues.
> > >>
> > >> As the project is going to be hosted by the KDE community this
> streaming
> > >> part won't be implemented to avoid legal issues, but however I would
> like
> > >> to have this discussion to get as many feedback as possible.
> > >
> > > I am not sure you're approaching this the right way.
> > >
> > > For me it doesn't really matter if users can do illegal stuff with our
> > > software, what matters is that the software is legal and that it has
> legal
> > > uses (see KTorrent).
> > >
> > > What I think you should be asking yourself is "will I/KDE be in
> problems
> > > for shipping this sofware?" more than "can my user pontentially get in
> > > trouble for using my sofware to do illegal stuff?".
> >
> > As I understand it, some of these Babe features would involve KDE
> > servers; it's not fully peer-to-peer.
> >
> > KTorrent is legal and has legal uses, and if its users use it for
> > illegal stuff, that's their problem. But if KDE ran a BitTorrent
> > tracker on its infrastructure and people used it for copyrighted
> > content, would we get in trouble? Even though (like ThePirateBay's
> > defense says) trackers don't host or distribute content, just tell
> > peers where the other peers are?
>
> That's much more of a dark gray area and I would strongly advise KDE having
> anything to do with servers involved in that.
>
> Cheers,
>   Albert
>
>
>
>
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