Konrad Materka, GSOC proposal

Matthias Kretz kretz at kde.org
Sat Mar 29 14:23:33 GMT 2008


On Saturday 29 March 2008, Konrad Materka wrote:
> Matthias Kretz napisał(a):
> > On Friday 28 March 2008, Konrad Materka wrote:
> >> Ian Monroe napisał(a):
> >>> I'm pretty sure it's your signature and the way you send messages
> >>> that's giving grief, so I confidently copy your message to respond to.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Matthias Kretz <kretz at kde.org> wrote:
> >>>> SpamAssassin doesn't like me today:
> >>>>  http://vir.homelinux.org/stupid_spamassassin.mbox
> >>>> I didn't say whether the subtitle gets parsed in libphonon or in the
> >>>> backend. And I'm not sure at this point where it really should go. But
> >>>> ideally Phonon should be able to handle any media format, and that
> >>>> includes ext. subtitle files.
> >>>>
> >>>> For a start I'd put subtitle parsing in the backend. It's easier to
> >>>> move code from the backend to the frontend than the other way around.
> >>>
> >>> Given the Xine has no way to decode just subtitles, I suppose this
> >>> means he'd have to add the functionality to like phonon-xine. Perhaps
> >>> he could do it in a such a way that it'd be easy to add to other
> >>> phonon backends.
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps the ability to drag around subtitles could be in the frontend
> >>> at least?
> >>
> >> Uh, I've just read this and I see it is getting warmer :)
> >>
> >> I wanted widget to have full control and for example capture mouse
> >> events. Of course, we can propose workaround. For example, dragging
> >> subtitles around: redirect some events or change subtitles positions in
> >> realtime...
> >> Simply, I (we!) have to make a choice - Phonon back-end or external
> >> widget.
> >>
> >> Phonon:
> >> + one to rule them all
> >> - loss of control
> >
> > I don't see the loss of control.
> >
> >> Widget:
> >> + more control
> >> + could be used without Phonon
> >> + it was the first idea :)
> >> - another universal library (in Phonon mean)
> >
> > Usable without Phonon sounds like a plus, but really, how many use cases
> > are there for using a Qt/KDE-style API to subtitles but not use Phonon?
>
> At least one ;) Sylvain "Skarsnik" Colinet on IRC asked me if it would
> be possible to use it in his karaoke player :) He is using xine
> directly, but maybe he will be using Phonon in that case :)

Ah, yes. But once your work would be available inside Phonon his "problem" 
would be solved. Because currently he needs the frame number to sync the 
subtitles with. But if the subtitle is already provided in correct sync that 
problem is gone.

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