summary of the aKademy meetings

[Charles Samuels]

On Monday 2004 September 06 07:48 am, Matthias Kretz wrote:
> On Monday 06 September 2004 16:36, Scott Wheeler wrote:
> > On Monday 06 September 2004 12:56, Charles Samuels wrote:
> > > I mean the fact that we have a wrapper around what actually is the API.
> > > We don't have our own wrapper Qt, that's because we agreed that Qt will
> > > be our API.  So let's agree that NMM, GStreamer or whatever is our API.
>
> [snip]
>
> > I don't think you're going to get far pushing on that one.
>
> IIUC Charles wants to have a KAudioPlayer abstraction as well. So this
> doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
> Furthermore Qt is "our" wrapper around Xlib and friends (or considering the
> ports to OS X and Windows the respective libs there). The API of Qt is
> "our" API as KDE developers that's the way we want to use an API. But none
> of the media frameworks we've seen uses an API that a KDE developer
> immediately recognizes as something familiar. So for simple use of
> multimedia
> functionality having a Qt/KDE API is a must have.

No, I'm saying if you want a KDE API, make bindings to the ugly API.  Don't 
make an abstraction that merely makes things much much more difficult the 
instant you're past its capabilities.  Qt Provides eventFilter for example.

>
> > > > - Compatible to KDE 2 and 3: When KDE 4 comes out some people still
> > > > might be using aRts apps and therefor might require the aRts backend
> > > > to be used.
> > >
> > > That really doesn't make any sense at all.  They won't be using this
> > > framework for it at all, they'll be using arts directly.  This has
> > > nothing at all to do with it.
> >
> > Well, while I don't think this point is all that interesting, I think
> > what Matthias was trying to say was that if someone had some older
> > applications using aRts (hence they have an arts daemon running) that
> > they would tell new apps to use that daemon too.
>
> Yes, exactly. And I don't think this is a very important point, either. But
> still it comes with the system for free :-)

No, it's not even part of the system, it has nothing at all to do with it.  
It's like saying that it's ok for Xlib to be on my computer, even with Qt 
being used.

-- 
Charles Samuels <charles at kde.org>
 Don't changes horses in the middle of an apocalypse!
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