goal of kde-multimedia ?

[Leon Shiman]

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 11:18:33 +0000 (UTC) Thomas Vander Stichele 
wrote:
>
>> Well, from my understanding MAS is meant to be an alternative to 
GStreamer, 
>> not a supplement to it.  Specifically I know that the two groups 
aren't 
>> particularly fond of oneanother.  Hopefully Leon can shed some 
light on this 
>> matter.
>
>When Leon and Mike from MAS met us, the GStreamer people, was 
almost two years
>ago.  We went out a fair bit, discussing various things.  At that 
point, from
>what we understood MAS wanted to be an X-integrated sound card 
abstraction
>layer, offering the exact same thing for audio as X was providing 
for video. 
>They were back then also considering adding pieces of 
functionality that are
>in fact also in GStreamer's domain, like using compression codecs 
for
>network-transparency and so on.  We discussed some options, like 
using
>GStreamer for plugging the network-transparent part and so on.
>
>(For the people that asked, GStreamer isn't network-transparent in 
the sense
>that you can run parts of pipelines on different machines out of 
the box.
>There is however nothing stopping it from making your applications
>network-transparent, it just needs two plugins to make it work.  
In fact, a
>Pakistani developer we have has made a videowall application using 
GStreamer,
>displaying a matrix movie on sixteen monitors using four pc's with 
each four
>pci cards, and one controlling machine, with everything properly 
synchronized).
>

MAS is natively "network transparent". The MAS core provides an 
efficient single-threaded scheduler, which directs packets of 
arbitrary content from one plug-in "device" to another along a 
managed pathway. MAS-devices include network interfaces, sound and 
video card interfaces, X clients, codecs, etc. MAS "server"'s 
communicate across networks to negotiate timing and data delivery 
parameters. MAS "clients" are processes which communicate locally 
with a MAS "server". (To give the flavour...)


>As for our respective fondness, I can't speak for Leon, but as a 
team from our
>side we don't have any problems at all with MAS.  I met Leon again 
in Boston in
>2002, he was kind enough to drive me around town on a few 
occasions there too,
>and he has never given me reason to think he wouldn't be fond of 
us.  I guess
>both teams realize that the other team has different focuses 
though, and as any
>open source project either team probably has criticisms on a
>technical/organisational level.

Thomas and I are in complete agreement on personal and operational 
issues, rumours to the contrary notwithstanding.

>
>But this sort of differences is really no different than the sort 
of differences
>between KDE and GNOME, and over the recent years both projects 
have amply proven
>that, while the users might not always agree, there really are 
very good ways of
>cooperating if it makes sense on a technical/organisational level 
to do so.
>

Yup.

Thanks Thomas,

Leon



>I'll try to get resubscribed to the list now that the topic isn't 
bug reports,
>but multimedia future.
>
>Thomas "geez, I was on this list for more than a year waiting for 
a GStreame
>discussion, since I am a gst developers, and all I got was bug 
reports.
>Not a month after unsubscribing you all start to discuss the 
interesting
>stuff, damnit :)" Vander Stichele
>
>
>Thomas
>
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