Install presence

[René J.V. Bertin]

On Saturday June 19 2021 12:21:36 Christoph Cullmann wrote:
>perhaps I miss something, but the most talk here is now about "how to 
>get KDE applications into MacPorts".

Yes, but it would translate to other, similar platforms.

>Actually, to create application bundles outside of the MacPorts world, 
>the binary-factory.kde.org CI together with Craft
>provides already now a "working" solution.

This may work for standalone applications it is not a proper solution for distribution of a representatively complete KDE Applications subset, and probably inappropriate for applications that need to collaborate among each other or otherwise require shared resources. Bundling the KF5 frameworks as such (Apple has been using the term for libraries a bit longer ;) ) or even as a single meta-framework that gets installed into /Library would be a step into the right direction already that should be simple enough to deploy using Apple's own installer.

>But beside Krita (with own tooling), which does a good job on macOS

digiKam does just fine too as far as I can tell.

>maintainer to far (including me)
>really finalized any of the binary-factory application bundles to a 
>point one would say there are
>non-beta.

IMHO no KDE application is complete without the KDE file dialogs and a few of the other goodies provided by the KDE platform plugin. Some also use menu subsections (i.e. texted separators) in a way that losing the text degrades the UI. Again, that's IMHO, I'm aware that many KDE devs don't see things the same way (re: more catholic than the pope) but the Mac has always had applications that use either custom file dialogs and/or menu items that aren't part of the standard UI toolbox. Note that both are possible even with standalone-app-bundled applications (it's trivial to provide a QPA plugin that overrides Qt's own).

>I would appreciate help with getting the Kate bundle up to shape,
>but I doubt that is something that can be solved with money, one would 
>just need some
>Kate contributor using macOS daily, I don't.

I'm pretty certain you could post a successful bounty to find someone like that. 

Of course, there's the underlying question what it's all good for. Like MS Windows the Mac has a substantial collection of good quality free native software that covers a large portion of what KDE has to offer. I know there are (were?) people who prefer to use Okular over Apple's Preview, myself I definitely prefer Kontact over Apple Mail (but the KDE PIM4 version...) and KDevelop over Xcode (except for native coding), Dolphin has better integration of all kinds of remote shares than the Finder has (esp. of CIFS on older OS X versions which can't connect to Win10 computers) but those are the only non-specialist (and/or powerhouse) KDE applications that I can think of and not think of an equally-good-or-better "native" alternative.
(I'm sorry to admit that that includes Kate, for me, but then again I also hardly use it on Linux.)