[kde-linux] Re: KDE-4.6 build order

[James Tyrer]

On 02/14/2011 02:25 AM, David Jarvie wrote:
> On Sun, February 13, 2011 6:14 am, James Tyrer wrote:
>> On 02/12/2011 02:06 AM, Dale wrote:
>>> James Tyrer wrote:
>>>> Since KDE, with the move to GIT, has now been divided into more
>>>> modules,
>>>> I find that it would be convenient if I knew the order in which I
>>>> should
>>>> build the modules.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a list showing the proper build order somewhere?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I use Gentoo.  I could post the list here for the order Gentoo compiles
>>> them.  Would that help any?
>>>
>> The problem is that when stuff was moved from SVN to GIT that it was
>> broken into smaller pieces:
>>
>> kdebase/kde-baseapps
>> kdebase/kde-runtime
>> kdebase/kde-workspace
>> kdebase/konsole
>> kdebindings/C#/kimono
>> kdebindings/C#/qyoto
>> kdebindings/kross-interpreters
>> kdebindings/PERL/perlkde
>> kdebindings/PERL/perlqt
>> kdebindings/RUBY/korundum
>> kdebindings/RUBY/qtruby
>> kdebindings/smoke/smokegen
>> kdebindings/smoke/smokekde
>> kdebindings/smoke/smokeqt
>> kdepim
>> kdepimlibs
>> kdepim-runtime
>> kdeplasma-addons
>>
>> And this may be even more complicated after other modules are moved.
> There is a build script in http://gitweb.kde.org/kdesrc-build.git, which
> has been updated since kdelibs and kdebase were moved to git. You could
> either use this script for building, or if you don't want to use the
> script itself, check in it what the build order is.
Perhaps this would, since you identified yourself as a KDE Developer, a 
good place to address the unbelievable hubris of KDE Developers in general.

I suppose that the person that wrote that unbelievably complicated 
script actually believes that he was doing someone somewhere a service.  
But, this is clearly not the case.  How could anyone be so arrogant to 
think that rather than providing some simple information on how to build 
KDE that a very complicated script be provided.  It would take several 
hours to begin to understand how to configure the script to properly 
install the KDE-4.6 branch.  A person would have to figure out a lot of 
new and different things that pertain ONLY to the configuration file for 
the script.  Since most people that intend to install KDE from source 
should already know how to build stuff from source, this seems like a 
colossal waste of time and I see no possible enjoyment in it.

Further the instructions for using the script are based on the same idea 
of installing KDE in a separate user account which is totally invalid 
except for (possibly) installing TRUNK -- I do not think that this could 
possibly be fully functional for the current TRUNK since it could not 
properly interact with D-Bus and HAL.

So, it is not a question of whether I don't want to use the script.  The 
fact is that I do NOT want to have to waste the time needed to use it to 
install the KDE-4.6 branch where I want it installed.

But, getting to the question: It appears that the script (kdesrc-build) 
does not contain all of the needed information regarding the proper 
build order.  There is a list (my @defaultModuleList) starting at line 
3316 which probably is listed in the proper build order.  This does 
clarify the correct order for:

     kde-runtime
     kde-workspace
     kde-baseapps
     konsole

and perhaps others.  But for modules that are not listed here, and 
therefore for all modules not using default, the order would appear to 
be determined by the: ".kdesrc-buildrc" so this begs the question with 
no instructions for the proper order in the configuration file.

Specifically, I needed to know the correct order for:

	kdepimlibs
	kdepim-runtime

AND

	kdebindings/C#/kimono
	kdebindings/C#/qyoto
	kdebindings/kross-interpreters
	kdebindings/PERL/perlkde
	kdebindings/PERL/perlqt
	kdebindings/RUBY/korundum
	kdebindings/RUBY/qtruby
	kdebindings/smoke/smokegen
	kdebindings/smoke/smokekde
	kdebindings/smoke/smokeqt

I do not want to sound like this is retaliation because it is a simple statement of fact.  If the KDE Developers do not want to give up the information needed to finish writing:

http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4.x_Upgrade

it will not be done because I am not going to do this by trial and error anymore when others have the information and seem to feel the need to keep it secret.  Without the needed information, it is simply not possible to write a tutorial.

Please make some allowance for the fact that I have the flu and am not 
in a good mood.

Perhaps you would be interested in helping me with this project.

-- 
James Tyrer

Linux (mostly) From Scratch