[kde-linux] Fw: [Bug 503693] Re: headers and footers in Firefox 3.5.6 and later overprint main text

Bruce Miller subscribe at brmiller.ca
Thu Jan 7 16:10:50 UTC 2010

Forward of post to Ku/Ubuntu bug database on launchpad.net on the subject of printing problems in Kubuntu:

----- Forwarded Message ----
> From: Bruce R Miller <bugs at brmiller.ca>
> To: Bug 503693 <503693 at bugs.launchpad.net>
> Cc: John Layt <johnlayt at googlemail.com>
> Sent: Thu, January 7, 2010 11:07:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [Bug 503693] Re: headers and footers in Firefox 3.5.6 and later overprint main text
> After several years of relative stability following the widespread adoption of 
> CUPS, end-user printing in Linux has once again become a nightmare. The problem 
> is no longer getting the printer to talk to the computer; it is now a raft of 
> bugs in various page rendering components that pass output to the printer 
> driver. I see these various problems as unrelated to one another, but 
> cumulatively they are turning the use of Linux for me into a trying act of faith 
> rather than a positive experience. (I say this as someone who has used Linux 
> almost exclusively for over eight years and has often gone three to six months 
> without booting into Windows.) You might wish to Google my posts to the 
> Launchpad bug database, ubuntuforums.org, kubuntuforums.net and the kde-linux 
> mailing list on some of the individual problems.
> This precise problem with overprinting headers and footers is, to the best of my 
> knowledge, unique to Firefox. Since Firefox, even in Kubuntu, relies on a 
> certain number of GNOME components and I do not run GNOME, others will be better 
> than placed than I to determine whether this problem affects other applications 
> which rely on GNOME print routines.
> For the time being, printing in kate is reliable and stable. Alleluia.
> The same cannot be said for konqueror. I hope I have this right: konqueror 
> relies on the renderer in qt 4.6 and qt4.6 is a bug farm. The one that bites us 
> North American users hardest --- if my amateur analysis is correct, and it might 
> not be --- is a failure to define the bottom of the page correctly. The users 
> loses the last 3-4 lines of each page plus any footer. My guess, and it's only a 
> guess, is that in the transition of  Trolltech (designers of qt) to Nokia 
> ownership, a reference to the SI A4 paper spec got hardcoded into the print 
> renderer rather than a reference to the user's printer configuration. John Layt 
> has put in a lot of work trying to fix these qt bugs; you might also want to 
> Google some of his work.
> I hope this answers your question. Please let me know if it doesn't.
> Bruce
> ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Micah Gersten 
> > To: bugs at brmiller.ca
> > Sent: Thu, January 7, 2010 2:57:06 AM
> > Subject: [Bug 503693] Re: headers and footers in Firefox 3.5.6 and later 
> overprint main text
> > 
> > Thank you for reporting this to Ubuntu.  Does this occur in other
> > applications like Kate or Konqueror?
> > 
> > ** Changed in: firefox-3.5 (Ubuntu)
> >        Status: New => Incomplete

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