[kde-linux] Connecting to a samba share at startup

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 02 Aug 2007, Boyan Tabakov wrote:
> On Wednesday 01 August 2007 22:43:52 Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Wednesday 01 Aug 2007, Boyan Tabakov wrote:
> > > Hi Anne,
> > >
> > > What exactly is this desktop icon for the remote home directory? Did it
> > > appear because of the fstab entry or did you set it up manually? I
> > > never use desktop icons (like the place clean:) ) and I am not familiar
> > > with automatically generated ones, but if it is there because of the
> > > fstab entry, than it is understandable why you are not asked for
> > > username/password - these are already in fstab.
> >
> > It is caused by the fstab entry.  Yes, I understand why it doesn't ask
> > for username and password.  What I don't understand is why kontact can't
> > use that connection, but has to ask again unless I have open a session
> > through the kde web applet (which required both to be given).
> >
> > > How are you telling kontact to use your remote home directory? Is this
> > > some option there or you are redirecting some symlinks?
> >
> > My addressbook and diary are in remote files - on the server.  I have
> > done it this way for several years now, and this is the first time I've
> > hit this particular problem.
> >
> > > I like to see things that happen under the hood:) so would you please
> > > post the output of the mount command just after you've logged in to
> > > KDE?
> >
> > I'm not sure what you're asking there, Boyan.
>
> Just log in to KDE, open a konsole window and type "mount". What is the
> output?
>
> > > Also of
> > > "ls -lad /mnt/Samba-Home" or whatever your mount point is.
> >
> > drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 Aug  1 08:20 /mnt/Samba-Home/
>
> There are two possibilities:
>  - the /mnt/Samba-Home is not mounted yet
>  - the /mnt/Samba-Home is not mounted with the correct permissions
>
> That's why I'd like to see the output of the "mount" command. If it the the
> latter, you won't be able to write anything to the share, just read, unless
> you log in as root, which I hope is not the case.
>
> > > Note the "d"
> > > option that will list only the directory itself and not its contents. I
> > > just want to see the permissions...
> >
> > I'll remember that - very useful.
> >
> > > Also compare this output with the same on your laptop.
> >
> > I don't mount it, as such, on the laptop.  I just access it in Kontact as
> > a remote addressbook and diary.
>
> Hmmm, I am beginning to think that there is a misunderstanding here.
> Accessing a resource as a remote resource is one thing. Mounting a remote
> share locally is another. When you mount the samba share, it appears as
> intgral part of your local file system and applications can't tell that
> this is actually a remote file system. So if you want to tell kontact to
> use the samba share as it is mounted, you'd just have to point it to the
> locally appearing resources (located somewhere under /mnt/Samba-Home.
>
> If you tell contact to use the "remote" resource, you are probably
> specifying a protocol on which those can be accessed (most probably
> smb://). Then KDE does not use any mounts (it does not mount your remote
> file system locally), it uses the samba kio slave to allow access to the
> remote files. That is why it keeps asking for password.
>
I see - though it doesn't explain why the laptop can do it without asking.  As 
you guessed, it is using the smb:// protocol - in the Add Resource dialogue I 
point it to the smb://borg/anne/.kde/share/apps/korganizer/std,vcf

> Please, post the output of the mount command and we'll see what the best
> course of action is. If we get the mount properly, you'll be able to access
> your resources just like you access local resources and not remote (the
> remote thing will happen transparently for the application).
>
/dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw)
none on /proc type proc (rw)
/dev/hda7 on /Data type ext3 (rw)
/dev/hda5 on /home type ext3 (rw)
none on /media/floppy type supermount (rw,sync,dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--)
/dev/hdb3 on /mnt/FC6Home type ext3 (rw)
/dev/hdb1 on /mnt/FC6Root type ext3 (rw)
none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
sunrpc on /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs type rpc_pipefs (rw)
//borg/anne on /mnt/Samba-Home type smbfs (0)

If mounting the share by fstab is not helping this at all I shall remove the 
entry.  I don't need it there for any other purpose.  It's much more 
important that I understand and, hopefully, cure this problem.

Anne
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