[Kde-hardware-devel] [kde-artists] [Fwd: Device Specific Icons and the Icon Naming Specification]

[Jakob Petsovits]

On Monday, 18. June 2007, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> are any of our people involved in these decisions, or does Rodney basically
> commit then discussions if any ensue? i ask because since we've adopted the
> spec, we really ought to be involved with it so that it doesn't become
> something that isn't useful to us.

I believe he handled stuff pretty much unilaterally until now.
Given a friendly but determined push from a number of people who are actively 
involved with KDE artwork, we may well have some influence on certain aspects 
of the specification.

I'll see if I can talk to Rodney in the next one or two weeks.

> note that these changes actually require some changes to kiconloader which
> i might actually get to on monday (tomorrow).

The issue might not be resolved until then. I suggest to implement the 
behaviour from the current "stable" version (0.8) for now and extend the 
device loading features after consulting with Rodney and when the spec has 
been bumped to 0.9.

> we should also be pushing our names upstread for icons not covered.

The sensible ones, yes. There's a lot of stuff that I wouldn't consider to be 
worthy of being a "standard" (even though fd.o doesn't do those anyways ;)
so it's a question of cherrypicking the important ones.

For the devices/ icons, I already sorted between appropriate and less 
appropriate "standard" icons, it's now a matter of getting those included
in the spec.

> in any case, i do think that it's pretty useless to say that a disk is a
> "dvd" in its icon rather than wether it is video, data, burnable, etc. i
> really don't think users care much about the format as much as they do
> about what they can do with it.

Agreed, we might be better off to stick to the most intuitive approach
(normal, recordable, audio, video) and drop the format additions in order to 
preserve simplicity, so that icon theme designers are not expected to make a 
{dvd,hddvd,bd} icon for each of {normal,recordable,audio,video}. That's for 
sure an issue that needs to be considered for pushing into the spec.

So I modified my proposal to completely removing the DVD icon (also discussed 
with Aaron on IRC) and uploaded the whole thing to 
http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Oxygen/namingSpec/devices .
I think it should now accomodate everyone, also, please don't change it 
without having discussing your change with me beforehand.

Have fun!