"Gardening" old bugreports

[Justin Zobel]

Wishlist items are already excluded for all projects.

On Thu, 19 Jan 2023, 7:39 pm David Jarvie, <djarvie at kde.org> wrote:

> I don't think that wishlist items should be treated in the same way as
> actual bugs. Even if the original reporter is no longer interested in a
> wishlist report or is no longer contactable, the feature asked for may
> still be valid.
>
> For KAlarm at least, please exclude wishlist reports from gardening
> processes.
>
> On 19 January 2023 06:17:23 GMT, AnnoyingRains <annoyingrain5 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Also, note that we can provide exceptions when doing this, like we have
>> done with Krita, (excluded from both MR and bug report cleanup). If you
>> would like your project to be excluded, just let us know!
>>
>> Thanks
>> - Kye Potter, KDE Gardening
>>
>> On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 at 5:07 pm, Laurent Montel <montel at kde.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> For pim* it’s ok for me.
>>> We have a very old bug, but pim* changed a lot.
>>> Or some apps are dead (blogilo etc.)
>>> A lot of bug report are duplicated or obsolete.
>>>
>>> Thanks for doing it.
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Le jeudi 19 janvier 2023, 04:04:45 CET Justin a écrit :
>>> > Hi Nicolas,
>>> >
>>> > This has been discussed with Nate Graham directly who has approved this
>>> > cleanup of Bugzilla including the messaging behind it.
>>> >
>>> > I am happy to discuss any concerns that people have around this. I
>>> > understand Krita requested we exclude them from any gardening and that
>>> > has been done, however this is the only feedback I have received.
>>> >
>>> > The gardening team aims to find out if the bug reports are still
>>> > relevant by involving the users who reported them in determining if
>>> they
>>> > are still valid. This increases community involvement and helps KDE as
>>> > there isn't anywhere near enough manpower to review the thousands upon
>>> > thousands of bugs that haven't been touched in years.
>>> >
>>> > The bugs that we are interacting with are ones that have not had any
>>> > activity for over 2 years. We are simply trying to reinvigorate
>>> > discussion on those bugs to see if they are still valid. If the user
>>> > does not reply within the standard 30 day period after a bug is set to
>>> > NEEDSINFO, it is automatically closed by the Bug Janitor.
>>> >
>>> > I am not simply closing bugs, so I do take offense that care is not
>>> applied.
>>> >
>>> > I will halt it until it is approved by more developers. However if it
>>> is
>>> > decided that it isn't wanted then the KDE as a whole will need to
>>> entice
>>> > more people in sorting old bugs individually as it is clearly not a
>>> > priority right now for the majority.
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> >
>>> > Justin
>>> >
>>> > On 19/1/23 11:05, Nicolas Fella wrote:
>>> > > Hi,
>>> > >
>>> > > can we please put the effort of "gardening" old bugreports on hold
>>> until
>>> > > we figured out whether this is actually something we want to do?
>>> Several
>>> > > people already expressed concerns about this.
>>> > >
>>> > > Improperly applied such mass changes can do more harm than good. We
>>> may
>>> > > close bugreports that are actually still useful just because nobody
>>> > > replied on then in a relatively short timeframe.
>>> > >
>>> > > Properly cleaning up old bugreports is important. However, it
>>> requires
>>> > > some level of care and expertise to judge whether a bugreport is
>>> still
>>> > > useful. Judging by the volume of bugreports that is pinged with the
>>> same
>>> > > copy&paste message this care is not  applied here.
>>> > >
>>> > > At minimum such initiatives should be announced and discussed before
>>> > > doing them, to allow people to give their input on the proposal. I am
>>> > > not aware of any such announcement/discussion.
>>> > >
>>> > > Cheers
>>> > >
>>> > > Nicolas
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> Engineer
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>>>
>>> --
> David Jarvie
> KAlarm author, KDE developer
>
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