Introduction and Bug of the Month
Nate Graham
nate at kde.org
Wed Dec 7 03:20:03 GMT 2022
1 is clearly better; let's do that. I actually looked into it a few
months ago but got demoralized by the complexity of the code, but I'm
not really a real engineer. Maybe I'll give it a shot again.
Nate
On 12/6/22 19:38, AnnoyingRains wrote:
> Good points, we could use this (much more minor) bug:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=391905
> <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=391905> instead. It could easily
> be fixed in a month, as there are two ways to handle this bug:
>
> 1: add a trash can icon to the global themes menu (just like how there
> is one in the other menus)
>
> 2: rename the "Get New Global Themes" button to "Install and Manage
> Global Themes"
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 11:57 AM Nate Graham <nate at kde.org
> <mailto:nate at kde.org>> wrote:
>
> I think it depends on how we want to conceptualize this. The harder the
> bug is, the more time we'll need to budget for it, and the bigger the
> risk that it doesn't get done--which is just the status quo, so I guess
> not that big of a risk, except for maybe demoralizing people and making
> the initiative seem like a failure.
>
> FWIW I think the bugs for the 15-minute bug initiative
> (https://tinyurl.com/plasma-15-minute-bugs
> <https://tinyurl.com/plasma-15-minute-bugs>) are more suitable for the
> monthly approach, as each of these could definitely get done in less
> than a month.
>
> Perhaps in addition to "bug of the month" we could do another thing for
> bigger and harder bugs.
>
> Nate
>
>
> On 12/5/22 23:28, AnnoyingRains wrote:
> > Perhaps we could switch to “bug of the quarter” instead? As most
> of the
> > bugs that are notable enough to be a serious hassle or annoyance
> for a
> > large amount of users might not be suitable for one month, as you
> > pointed out.
> >
> > Although I feel that “bug of the quarter” doesn’t sound as
> exciting, or
> > possibly even motivating enough to get devs on board. Perhaps we
> could
> > create a section on the (would need to be created) Bug of the
> Quarter
> > wiki page, that lists all contributors who directly contributed
> to the
> > patch, if there is more than one, of course.
> >
> > Other than that, perhaps just an email to the KDE dev mailing list
> > congratulating them and announcing the next bug? That could
> encourage
> > people.
> >
> > On Tue, 6 Dec 2022 at 4:01 pm, Nate Graham <nate at kde.org
> <mailto:nate at kde.org>
> > <mailto:nate at kde.org <mailto:nate at kde.org>>> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Kyle,
> >
> > Yes, that sounds like a good idea.
> > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408919
> <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408919>
> > <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408919
> <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408919>> should also be quite a
> > challenge! I think for something like this we would need to leave
> > plenty
> > of time for people technically capable of working on it to
> show up.
> >
> > Nate
> >
> >
> > On 12/4/22 04:40, AnnoyingRains wrote:
> > > Me again, we missed December, it would probably have been too
> > busy for
> > > most devs to work on it anyway, but perhaps we could
> relaunch this
> > > program on 1/1/2023 as a new year’s thing?
> > >
> > > - Kye Potter (same person as AnnoyingRains,I’m slowly
> switching
> > all my
> > > KDE activities over to my real name)
> > >
> > > On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 at 10:13 am, AnnoyingRains
> > <annoyingrain5 at gmail.com <mailto:annoyingrain5 at gmail.com>
> <mailto:annoyingrain5 at gmail.com <mailto:annoyingrain5 at gmail.com>>
> > > <mailto:annoyingrain5 at gmail.com
> <mailto:annoyingrain5 at gmail.com>
> > <mailto:annoyingrain5 at gmail.com
> <mailto:annoyingrain5 at gmail.com>>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello again, just realised my last email only had Nate
> in the
> > “to”
> > > field, hopefully this one works better. Sorry if this
> creates a
> > > duplicate somewhere.
> > >
> > > Original email:
> > >
> > > To get the word out, I suggest we continue to announce new
> > bugs of
> > > the month on the kde-devel mailing list and on Planet
> KDE. Other
> > > than that, I don't really know of any other communications
> > platforms
> > > we have with developers.
> > > Other than just asking nicely and encouraging devs
> from different
> > > projects to give the bug a shot, I don't think there is
> > really much
> > > more we can do.
> > >
> > > For an easier bug to patch, perhaps
> > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408919
> <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408919>
> > <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408919
> <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408919>>
> > > <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408919
> <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408919>
> > <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408919
> <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408919>>>would work, it's not
> > > quite as long standing as the other bug, but still an
> annoying
> > > usability issue with core functionality.
> > >
> > > On Fri, 25 Nov 2022 at 3:51 pm, Nate Graham
> <nate at kde.org <mailto:nate at kde.org>
> > <mailto:nate at kde.org <mailto:nate at kde.org>>
> > > <mailto:nate at kde.org <mailto:nate at kde.org>
> <mailto:nate at kde.org <mailto:nate at kde.org>>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello AnnoyingRains,
> > >
> > > Thanks for wanting to get involved with the Gardening
> > team! It's
> > > a small
> > > team right now and can rally benefit from more
> members.
> > >
> > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329
> <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329>
> > <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329
> <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329>>
> > > <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329
> <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329>
> > <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329
> <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329>>> Would be quite a
> > > challenge.
> > > Implementing it properly can only really be done
> in the
> > Wayland
> > > session,
> > > and even then, it's quite complicated. Of the people I
> > can think
> > > of who
> > > would be definitely capable of implementing the
> feature,
> > all of
> > > them are
> > > super busy right now. So I doubt it could get done
> in a
> > month,
> > > to be
> > > honest. But... maybe I'm wrong! One of the best
> ways to
> > get things
> > > moving is simply to care about them, publicize the
> issue, and
> > > try to
> > > attract developers.
> > >
> > > Do you have ideas for how we can get the word out
> here and
> > > generate buzz
> > > surrounding it?
> > >
> > > Nate
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/23/22 22:18, AnnoyingRains Games wrote:
> > > > Hello, I am AnnoyingRains, a brand new
> contributor to KDE
> > > (and also new
> > > > to mailing lists).
> > > > I have been using KDE software (notably Plasma,
> Konsole,
> > > Dolphin, KDE
> > > > Partition Manager and Kwrite) on my laptop for
> over a year
> > > now (and
> > > > loving it), and I think now is finally time for
> me to give
> > > back to the
> > > > community.
> > > >
> > > > I found the gardening team on the "Get
> Involved" page, and
> > > when looking
> > > > through the things that the team does, I found
> Bug of the
> > > Month, a bug
> > > > fixing effort that hasn't been in place since 2015.
> > > > I suggest we bring this programme back into action.
> > > >
> > > > I believe that a good Bug of the Month is a bug
> that
> > not only
> > > affects a
> > > > large amount of people, but one that makes KDE look
> > bad, or the
> > > > developers look lazy for not fixing it, and I
> believe
> > we have
> > > a good
> > > > contender for the first bug of the month in
> over 6 years.
> > > >
> > > > Bug 15329,
> (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329
> <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329>
> > <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329
> <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329>>
> > > <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329
> <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329>
> > <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329
> <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329>>>
> > > > <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329
> <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329>
> > <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329
> <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329>>
> > > <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329
> <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329>
> > <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329
> <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329>>>>), is a great
> > > contender for
> > > > this. The bug is over 22 years old, and can cause
> > > seemingly-broken
> > > > behaviour. If a new user sees this and attempts
> to find a
> > > solution for
> > > > this annoying issue, then they will find this
> ancient bug
> > > report. People
> > > > usually don't react to 22+ year old reports
> well, so
> > this may
> > > cause them
> > > > to choose to use a competing product instead of
> KDEs, and
> > > make KDE look bad.
> > > >
> > > > I have no idea how to sign off an email to a
> mailing
> > list, so
> > > I'll just
> > > > cut it off here.
> > >
> >
>
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