[Kde-games-devel] Oware

Thu Sep 15 16:36:59 CEST 2005

Hello fellow game makers,

I just wanted to send you all a quick update on the new KOware game. I
know it's been a while since I last sent an update, but I wanted you all
to know that I've been working on the required changes ( with limited free
time, sadly ). I think you'll be pleased with the improvements to KDE
standardization. I created an entirely new development branch to emphasize
and ensure KDE standards. I have migrated the docs to docbook format,
enforced i18n, created a .desktop file and implemented Makefile.am. The
only thing left is to create the different the sized icons, then I will
commit it to SVN. Thanks for your patience!

Michael Collins

> A Dissabte 30 Juliol 2005 23:48, michaelcollins at ivorycity.com va escriure:
>> Okay, I've fixed some of these things. I will address the other
>> comments/suggestions one-by-one.
>>
>> > I've downloaded it, here are some comments
>> >  1 - Starting ./kde-oware-1.0.10 and clicking redo does something, it
>> > should
>> > not as obviously i've not undone anything.
>>
>> Cool. Thanks. Fixed.
>>
>> >  2 - Help should use standard kde help
>>
>> Got a quick link where I can find out how to do that?
> Well, it's not *that* easy, you need to convert your html to docbook and
> then
> use code to launch khelpcenter.
>
> Docbook -> http://i18n.kde.org/doc/markup/index.html
> I'm not sure how up-to-date it is, maybe it would be easier getting a
> already
> done kde docbook and modyfiing it, i think doc people also will convert
> your
> plain text documntation to docbook if you send it to them. Ask Lauri Watts
> about it.
>
> Launch KHelpCenter ->
> http://developer.kde.org/documentation/library/cvs-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdecore/html/classKApplication.html#a17
>
>>
>> >  3 - There are lots of texts without i18n for example
>> >     QLabel* aml = new QLabel(QString(" SET WIZARD INTELLECT "),this);
>>
>> These are defined away to i18n at the beginning of the file if compiling
>> for KDE. Qt doesn't have i18n, so I needed this hack to maintain compat
>> with KDE and Qt.
> Ok, i didn't realize.
>
>> >  4 - Using qmake is not the standard kde build system, you need to use
>> > automake as everyone else does
>>
>> I know. I thought you guys might have some special KDE standard
>> automakes
>> that I'm required to use, so I put it off until I commit the source.
> Ok.
>
>> >  5 - The game is not installable, this has to be fixed as everything
>> in
>> > kde
>> > has to be installable, when you make the game installable things like
>> > "imgs/owareicon16x16.png" are not going to work so you have to use
>> > locate()
>> > for that
>>
>> Thanks. I'm looking into that.
>>
>> >  6 - The "employment thing" is not going to be accepted
>>
>> Removed.
>>
>> >  7 - There is some text cut on "Your Score" in my computer, image
>> > attached.
>>
>> Thanks. Implemented QFontMetrics.
>>
>> >  8 - I don't see why you have to change user's default font to "arial"
>> > for drawing some texts
>>
>> I wanted to enforce my stylistic vision of the game. That was important
>> to
>> me.
> Good enough reason.
>
>> >  9 - Using images with "HELP", etc embedded is not going to be
>> accepted,
>> > as
>> > that is not translatable.
>>
>> That's okay because everything is available in i18n from the standard
>> menu
>> items. Those extra buttons are just for show. They also happen to
>> work.:)
>>
>> The extra buttons are pure and simple fun because they're African masks.
>> And games are better when they're fun. Lets leave 'em.
>
> Could you try to draw the text? I mean, leave the African masks and draw a
> i18n'ed text on run time?
>
>> >  10 - There are memory leaks on the code, or at least that is what
>> > valgrind
>> > tells me.
>>
>> Tell Valgrind that if he crashes Oware because of memory over
>> consumption,
>> I'll send him a six of Budweiser wherever he is in the world.;)
>>
>> If it leaks, I can't tell. I don't think it does, but I'm open to the
>> possibility. However, even if it does, users playing even 100 or more
>> games will not notice any appreciable additional memory consumption. I
>> mean, it's a game, not a server.
> Hmm, i think you don't know what valgrind is, as you assume it's a person
> :-D
> http://www.valgrind.org/
> Valgrind is a powerful tool that has a memory leak checker as one of his
> much
> features.
>
> Albert.
>
>> >  11 - If i remember correctly, all files inside KDE must have the
>> license
>> > in
>> > the header of the file, so you should add it to all .cpp .c .h
>>
>> Cool. Will do.
>>
>> > Though you have some problems to be fixed the game can be imported
>> into
>> > kde
>> > SVN. Not directly in kdegames but in playground/games so you can make
>> it
>> > evolve there and when it's mature enough, that is, all the problems i
>> > comment
>> > above + some more things we can find, it can be moved to kdegames.
>> >
>> > Also, you have to understand that moving a program into KDE is very
>> > different
>> > from developing alone, for examples, texts like SET WIZARD INTELLECT
>> will
>> > be
>> > lowercased because the Human Interface Guidelines do not allow all
>> > uppercase
>> > texts, etc.
>>
>> Ah. Interesting. I will change texts to use mixed upper and lower.
>>
>> > Also if you want to be inside KDE i'd suggest to completely drop the
>> Qt
>> > only
>> > support, as it will fill your code with #if #else #endif things
>>
>> I got some conflicting advice on this point from other list members, but
>> I
>> think that's reasonable. I'll could try to make the source KDE-only,
>> though I don't want to exclude Qt'ers.
>>
>> > I can help you with "ugly" things like automake, using standard kde
>> help,
>> > etc.
>> > if you feel lost.
>>
>> That would be great because I find KDE docs rather cryptic. Got any
>> suggestions on the help system?
>>
>> > The first thing you need to do if you are sure you want oware to be
>> moved
>> > inside playground/games is ask for a SVN account
>> > http://developer.kde.org/documentation/misc/applysvnaccount.php
>> > and then import the sources, if you feel you prefer someone else does
>> the
>> > importing i can handle it for you.
>>
>> Cool. Thanks for the suggestions. I'm looking forward to working with
>> you
>> guys to put on the finishing touches!
>>
>> Best,
>> Michael
>>
>> > Albert
>> >
>> > A Dimecres 13 Juliol 2005 14:49, michaelcollins at ivorycity.com va
>> escriure:
>> >> Has anyone had time to review my changes to the Oware Wizard? Version
>> >> 1.0.10 is now available on my site. It should be nearly ready, if not
>> >> ready, to add to CVS. Thanks! Michael
>> >>
>> >> http://oware.ivorycity.com
>> >>
>> >>
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