D12337: Give the file dialogs a "Sort by" menu button on the toolbar
Nathaniel Graham
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Thu Apr 19 23:07:38 UTC 2018
ngraham added a comment.
If I step back, I think one reason why I find myself objecting to icon-only toolbuttons is because of an in-my-opinion unfortunate confluence of factors that make them difficult to distinguish as interactive UI elements:
- No border: doesn't actually look like a button unless hovered over
- No text: often difficult to distinguish meaning
- Minimalistic monochrome line-art icons in Breeze theme: often doesn't scream "I'm a clickable icon!" and can resemble decorations instead--or even worse, mere visual noise
- No downward-pointing arrows on menu buttons
IMHO, this is a classic case of an "excess of minimalism," where too much symbolism and meaning has been drained away in an effort to distill something to its basic essence. The effort was successful, but went too far!
Icon-only toolbuttons IMHO only really work where they use icons that are truly universally recognizable. If we can't find such an icon, I think it's hard to make the case that an icon-only toolbutton is appropriate.
Nevertheless, this needs to be a broader discussion, and we can't address it as a part of the open/save dialog initiative. Because of this, we need to work around some of the limitations it imposes on us IMHO.
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