Moving KWayland to frameworks

Martin Graesslin mgraesslin at kde.org
Thu Dec 10 07:02:49 UTC 2015


On Wednesday, December 9, 2015 6:14:47 PM CET Kevin Ottens wrote:
> > I just started looking into doing the replacement and noticed that I'm
> > also
> > using:
> > * Non-static data member initializers (N2756), gcc 4.7
> > * Range-based for (N2930), gcc 4.6
> 
> Note that if you do that with Qt containers it's likely a bad idea. It's
> likely to detach and copy whole containers if they are non-const. Qt
> containers should be used with foreach always to avoid problems (and yes
> that's a shame IMHO).

I'm aware of that and my usage of the range-based for is only in cases where 
it's not going to detach.

> 
> > * constexpr, gcc 4.6
> > * possibly also delegating ctors, gcc 4.7 (difficult to find)
> > 
> > Overall it looks to me like I cannot make this code base to work again
> > with
> > gcc 4.5 without spending a lot of time and possibly introducing
> > regressions.
> I would disagree here, it's not exactly difficult for all the cases to move
> back to being supported by gcc 4.5. Most of the features you mentioned are
> almost unused in your code base. I found only one constexpr use, two
> inherited ctors, no delegated ctors. The only annoying ones could be the
> data member initializers since you got a few in private headers and the for
> range loop (which I think you should change anyway).

yes, that's the annoying one which is lots of work and lots of possible 
regressions. I'm not sure whether I'm willing to do that work which I consider 
a useless exercise.

> 
> > So how should we go on?
> 
> My opinion still stands: fix it. :-)

As I just said: I consider this as a useless exercise and a waste of my time 
(and of anybody else who would do that). If we cannot have an exception I 
think I'll leave KWayland in kde-workspace.

> 
> Alternatively, we could bump the compiler requirements globally for KF5
> again. But I think it's too early for that, I'd wait for Qt 5.7 to be out
> (since they'll move their baseline as well at that point anyway).

Well it doesn't need to be a global bump of compiler requirements. But we 
could consider different compiler requirements for frameworks which are non-
portable. KWayland will never be built on Windows neither on OSX. So any 
compiler restrictions on it just shouldn't matter.

Cheers
Martin
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 181 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part.
URL: <http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-frameworks-devel/attachments/20151210/fc883349/attachment.sig>


More information about the Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list