Scope of framework integration plugin?

[Boudewijn Rempt]

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015, David Edmundson wrote:

> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Boudewijn Rempt <boud at valdyas.org> wrote:
>       Sort of related question... Is this also the module that picks up the font hinting
>       settings and applies it to KDE applications? I setup a gnome-only dev env to see
>       what Krita 3 looks like on that platform, without any kde integration available,
>       and I noticed that Qt 5.6 doesn't seem to pick up the Gnome font hinting settings.
> 
>  
> That mostly comes from X resources.
> 
> can you run:
>  xrdb -q | grep  Xft
> 
> on both?

I have finally had a chance to sit down at the computer at home:

On the opensuse leap gnome-only system:

boud at linux-jw8m:~> xrdb -q | grep -i xft
Xft.dpi:    96
Xft.antialias:  1
Xft.hinting:    0
Xft.hintstyle:  hintnone
Xft.rgba:   rgb

On the kde plasma 5 system:


Xft.dpi:    120
Xft.antialias:  1
Xft.hinting:    0
Xft.hintstyle:  hintnone
Xft.rgba:   none

> 
> startkde has a bunch of scripts to set these from your kde settings, but it's somewhat archaic so I can see why
> Gnome might have ported away.
> 
> David
> 
>
>       And that gives horrible spindly fonts, so I was thinking of ways to fix that setting...
>
>       On Mon, 30 Nov 2015, Aleix Pol wrote:
>
>             On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Martin Graesslin <mgraesslin at kde.org> wrote:
>                   On Monday, November 30, 2015 1:02:01 PM CET Aleix Pol wrote:
>                         On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Martin Graesslin
>                         <mgraesslin at kde.org>
>
>                   wrote:
>                         > Hi all,
>                         >
>                         > there is currently a review request to add OSX specific changes
>                         to
>                         > framework integration plugin [1].
>                         >
>                         > This seems wrong to me. I think our framework integration plugin
>                         is about
>                         > integration Qt applications into the Plasma workspace. In my
>                         opinion it
>                         > should not be used anywhere else. Not on GNOME, not on Windows
>                         and not on
>                         > OSX. The idea of integration is that applications look native on
>                         the
>                         > desired platform. The plugin defines the native look on Plasma
>                         and by
>                         > that using it on other platforms is automatically breaking the
>                         > integration.
>                         >
>                         > Now I understand that some people don't like the native look of
>                         their
>                         > platform and would prefer using Plasma. Sorry I don't have an
>                         answer to
>                         > that. Unfortunately I think it's completely out of scope for the
>                         > integration platform to be considered outside Plasma.
>                         >
>                         > Given that: if people agree with my view that the framework
>                         integration is
>                         > only about Plasma, I suggest that we move the framework
>                         integration to
>                         > kde/
>                         > workspace to release it together with Plasma instead of
>                         frameworks.
>                         >
>                         > Opinions?
>
>                         Hi,
>                         I agree with you, I've proposed the same thing as you in the past,
>                         although there's some issues that would then need to be sorted.
>
>                         What you actually want is, IMHO, to move the QPlatformTheme plugin
>                         together with Plasma, but frameworksintegration is not entirely
>                         about
>                         that nowadays: it has code that integrates different frameworks
>                         with
>                         each other:
>                         - FrameworkIntegrationPlugin: this doesn't really belong in
>                         plasma,
>                         integrates KMessageBox with KNotifications.
> 
>
>                   agree, does it belong into framework integration, though?
> 
>
>             Well, yes. It's the very reason for the framework to exist.
>
>             Arguably nothing else belongs in the repository though... ;)
> 
>
>                         - infopage: this is used by applications as well as plasma
> 
>
>                   same question: does this belong into framework integration?
>
>                         - KStyle: Plasma can provide styles, but this seems more like a
>                         QStyle
>                         creation framework.
> 
>
>                   maybe we need a dedicated kstyle framework?
>
>                         - platformtheme: Plasma integration. There I agree.
> 
>
>                   yep, that's what I actually was thinking about. All the defaults for in Plasma
> 
>
>             Aleix
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