[Kde-extra-gear] This list and associated website will be ending in one week

Steve Allewell steve.allewell at gmail.com
Wed Jan 27 23:53:07 UTC 2016


On 24/01/16 17:13, Elvis Angelaccio wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> 2016-01-24 17:53 GMT+01:00 Steve Allewell <steve.allewell at gmail.com
> <mailto:steve.allewell at gmail.com>>:
>
>     On 24/01/16 09:54, Elvis Angelaccio wrote:
>
>
>
>         2016-01-23 10:22 GMT+01:00 Elvis Angelaccio
>         <elvis.angelaccio at kdemail.net
>         <mailto:elvis.angelaccio at kdemail.net>
>         <mailto:elvis.angelaccio at kdemail.net
>         <mailto:elvis.angelaccio at kdemail.net>>>:
>
>
>
>              2016-01-22 20:44 GMT+01:00 Friedrich W. H. Kossebau
>              <kossebau at kde.org <mailto:kossebau at kde.org>
>         <mailto:kossebau at kde.org <mailto:kossebau at kde.org>>>:
>
>                  Hi Jeremy,
>
>                  Am Mittwoch, 20. Januar 2016, 11:19:31 schrieb Jeremy
>         Whiting:
>                   > Friedrich,
>                   >
>                   > On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Friedrich W. H.
>         Kossebau
>                  >
>                  > <kossebau at kde.org <mailto:kossebau at kde.org>
>         <mailto:kossebau at kde.org <mailto:kossebau at kde.org>>> wrote:
>                  > > Hi,
>                  > >
>                  > > let's get this one finished.
>                  > >
>                  > > Am Montag, 31. August 2015, 20:09:39 schrieb Albert
>         Astals Cid:
>                  > >> El Dilluns, 31 d'agost de 2015, a les 14:10:05,
>         Helio Chissini de Castro
>                  > >> va
>                  > >>
>                  > >> escriure:
>                  > >> > Hello everyone.
>                  > >> >
>                  > >> > This list made his job from years, but now is
>         time to let it go and
>                  > >> > assume
>                  > >> > this is a thing from the past. As same the aged
>         website.
>                  > >>
>                  > >> I'm concerned about the website going away, yes it
>         is *old* but there are
>                  > >> links going to it and there's visits as piwik
>         shows, what are we going to
>                  > >> do with it? totally kill it? I think we should
>         make some redirects to
>                  > >> places that make sense at least for app pages
>                  > >
>                  > > Redirects could be done to the respective app pages
>         below
>                  > >https://www.kde.org/applications/
>                  > > which are having similar info.
>                  > >
>                  > > Not sure all apps have pages there already (e.g.
>         KXStitch is to be found
>                  > > where? is not in /applications/graphics/ at least),
>         so would be also good
>                  > > to fix that while doing so.
>                  > >
>                  > > Anyone quick up to do that, first
>                  > > a) add missing pages tokde.org/applications
>         <http://tokde.org/applications> <http://kde.org/applications>, then
>                  > > b) adding redirects?
>                  >
>                   > I can do a and b if you like,
>
>                  That would be great.
>
>                   > do we have a list of which applications
>                   > need redirects and to be added? I didn't see kxstitch on
>         www.kde.org <http://www.kde.org> <http://www.kde.org>,
>                   > but it is on userbase at
>         https://userbase.kde.org/KXStitch . the
>                   > contents of www.kde.org/applications
>         <http://www.kde.org/applications>
>                  <http://www.kde.org/applications> are generated by the
>         .json files
>                   > here I believe:
>                   >
>         https://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/sites/www/applications/apps/
>
>                  Mh, after all the years of git I now fail to checkout a
>                  subversion repo. Or is
>                  it due to svn+ssh:// not enabled (or not for anyone)?
>
>                  Most items on the extragear website seem to have proper
>                  replacement on
>         kde.org/applications/ <http://kde.org/applications/>
>         <http://kde.org/applications/>.
>                  A few have not, but they could be added as first step:
>                  KXStitch, SymbolEditor, Kst
>
>                  Others seem mo longer maintained/developed, should their
>                  homepages just be
>                  dropped completely? Who might be interested in this ancient
>                  information?
>
>                  Kipi is a challenge, it is a framework with plugins and
>         not an
>                  application. So
>                  where can it have its mini-homepage on kde.org
>         <http://kde.org> <http://kde.org>?
>                  And same challenge are possibly the Kopete plugins, but
>         they
>                  might be outdated
>                  now.
>
>                  See below for full overview on software listed on
>         extragear.kde.org <http://extragear.kde.org>
>         <http://extragear.kde.org> and please
>                  comment.
>
>                  Cheers
>                  Friedrich
>
>
>
>                  Addon
>                  =====
>                  Kopete Skype -> no longer developed as of its page
>
>                  Graphics
>                  ========
>                  KColorEdit ->
>         https://www.kde.org/applications/graphics/kcoloredit/
>                  KGraphViewer ->
>         https://www.kde.org/applications/graphics/kgraphviewer/
>                  KPhotoAlbum ->
>         https://www.kde.org/applications/graphics/kphotoalbum/
>                  digiKam ->
>         https://www.kde.org/applications/graphics/digikam/
>
>                  KXStitch -> needs entry on kde.org/applications
>         <http://kde.org/applications>
>                  <http://kde.org/applications>
>                  SymbolEditor -> needs entry on kde.org/applications
>         <http://kde.org/applications>
>                  <http://kde.org/applications>
>                  Kipi -> needs entry, but kde.org/applications
>         <http://kde.org/applications>
>                  <http://kde.org/applications> seems not fitting, no app
>
>                  DigikamImagePlugins -> possibly what is now kipi, seems no
>                  longer developed
>                  KolorManager -> dead link on extragear.kde.org
>         <http://extragear.kde.org>
>                  <http://extragear.kde.org> itself
>
>                  kpovmodeler -> seems no longer developed
>                  showimg -> seems dead
>
>                  Multimedia
>                  ==========
>                  Amarok ->
>         https://www.kde.org/applications/multimedia/amarok/
>                  K3b -> https://www.kde.org/applications/multimedia/k3b/
>                  Kaffeine ->
>         https://www.kde.org/applications/multimedia/kaffeine/
>                  kmplayer ->
>         https://www.kde.org/applications/multimedia/kmplayer/
>
>                  kplayer ->  seems no longer developed
>
>                  Network
>                  =======
>                  KFTPGrabber ->
>         https://www.kde.org/applications/internet/kftpgrabber/
>                  KMldonkey ->
>         https://www.kde.org/applications/internet/kmldonkey/
>                  KTorrent ->
>         https://www.kde.org/applications/internet/ktorrent/
>                  Konversation ->
>         https://www.kde.org/applications/internet/konversation/
>                  knemo -> https://www.kde.org/applications/internet/knemo/
>
>                  Kopete Bonjour -> ?
>                  Kopete Cryptography -> ?
>                  KDEBluetooth -> seems kde4-only
>
>                  Office
>                  ======
>                  KEuroCalc ->
>         https://www.kde.org/applications/office/keurocalc/
>                  Skrooge -> https://www.kde.org/applications/office/skrooge/
>                  Tellico -> https://www.kde.org/applications/office/tellico/
>                  kile -> https://www.kde.org/applications/office/kile/
>
>                  Science
>                  =======
>                  Kst -> has own subdomain https://kst-plot.kde.org/, needs
>         kde.org/applications <http://kde.org/applications>
>         <http://kde.org/applications>
>
>
>                  System
>                  ======
>                  KDE Partition Manager ->
>         https://www.kde.org/applications/system/kdepartitionmanager/
>
>                  Utility
>                  =======
>                  Kiosktool ->
>         https://www.kde.org/applications/system/kioskadmintool/
>                  Krecipes ->
>         https://www.kde.org/applications/utilities/krecipes/
>                  Krusader ->
>         https://www.kde.org/applications/utilities/krusader/
>                  Yakuake -> https://www.kde.org/applications/system/yakuake/
>
>                  kdiff3 ->
>         https://www.kde.org/applications/development/kdiff3/
>
>                  KConfigEditor -> seems no longer developed
>                  Kronometer -> ?
>
>
>              Kronometer homepage is here [1].
>              I've requested write access to SVN, I can at least add the
>              kronometer images.
>              Not sure about how to add kronometer.json and
>              kronometer_generated.json in "www/applications/apps".
>              I see there a bunch of python scripts and I don't know
>         how/whether
>              one is supposed to use them.
>              If someone could add those two json above on my behalf, it
>         would be
>              great :)
>
>
>         Never mind, kronometer is now listed under
>         /applications/utilities :)
>
>         It looks like only KXStitch and SymbolEditor are missing their
>         entry, right?
>
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>     I have written json files for both KXStitch and SymbolEditor with
>     the updates for index.json.
>
>     A few things I wasn't sure of though:
>
>     The "icon" field - SymbolEditor uses a svgz icon, can this be used
>     or do I need to create a png of a particular size?
>
>
> I had the same question, as kronometer uses a svgz icon too. I ended up
> uploading 22x22 and 48x48 png icons (exported by inkscape from the svg
> one), since that's what all the other applications do in [1].
>
>
>     The "handbook" field - SymbolEditor has handbooks available in the
>     extragear-graphics module [1], but it is under a heading
>     "Symbol Editor". If I try to create a link[2][3] or variants using
>     SymbolEditor it shows a page saying the application was not found.
>     I don't know where the information in [1] is generated from so I
>     don't know where to fix it.
>
>
> No idea. Best to ask it in kde-i18n-doc list.
>
>
>     The "parent" field - I have set this to extragear/graphics but is
>     there an intention this should be changed to something else?
>
>
> I think you can ignore this field.
>
>
>     Apart from the two application json files and the change to
>     index.json, are there any other files that need updating?  For
>     example I notice there is an [application-name]_generated.json file
>     in [4], is this automatically generated or do I need to create that
>     as well?
>
>
> extractappdata.py (in the extractappdata folder) is supposed to generate
> them, but I couldn't manage to make it work (seems a bit outdated). I
> ended up creating the _generated.json by hand. The only two fields
> required in there should be "category" and "generic name".
>
>
> [1]: https://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/sites/www/images/icons/
>
>     [1]http://docs.kde.org/index.php?language=en&package=extragear-graphics
>     [2]http://docs.kde.org/?language=en&application=symboleditor
>     [3]http://docs.kde.org/?language=en&application=symbol%20editor
>     [4]http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/sites/www/applications/apps/
>
>     Regards
>
>     Steve
>
>
> Cheers,
> Elvis
>
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I have now added KXStitch and SymbolEditor to www.kde.org/applications 
under the Graphics section.  I will go through and check all the links 
are working, but it appears to be correct after a cursory look.

Regards

Steve


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