Replacing file-system by database in KStars

Vijay Dhameliya vijay.atwork13 at
Thu Jan 30 00:36:57 UTC 2014


Thank you David and John, I will implement database system for one big file
which is used everywhere and do analysis to get measure of significance.
Meanwhile I try to get Akash's opinion on the topic :)


On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:27 AM, John Layt <jlayt at> wrote:

> On Tuesday 28 Jan 2014 08:22:08 Vijay Dhameliya wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > Currently when KStars is launched, it reads data corresponding to
> different
> > Skyobject from respective file in loaddata() methods. And I have tracked
> > out all the classes where we are loading data by reading file.
> >
> > I researched bit on the topic and I found that loading data from database
> > is always much better option then doing same from file.
> >
> > If we replace file system with QSql following are the Pros:
> >
> > 1) We will not have to ship so many files with Kstars
> > 2) Loading from database is quicker than doing same from file
> > 3) Code for load methods will be reduced in size
> >
> > Cons:
> > 1) I will have to move all data from files into database by temporary
> > methods
> >
> > So I am planning to start coding to replace file system by database on my
> > local branch.
> >
> > Can you please give your views and suggestion regarding the same ? I am
> > sure that It will be very helpful to me. :)
> There's two areas you need to give serious thought to:
> 1) What database software?  If a server like MySql, be warned that you will
> get a lot of people complaining about needing to run an entire database
> server
> just to use KStars (see the complaints we regularly have/had over in PIM
> and
> Amarok), or demanding you use their preferred server instead.  If embedded
> like SQLite then will this give you the performance improvements you're
> looking for?
> 2) What are the sources of the data files and how often are they updated?
>  If
> these are data files updated regularly by an external provider, and perhaps
> distributed through KGetHotNewStuff then you will still need code to load
> the
> new data and merge it into the old data in the database, so no real
> reduction
> in code required, but a whole increased level of complexity from the data
> sync.  You also need to think of the initial download size of the database
> file and how that will affect distros, who can currently split the data
> files
> up in separate packages.  And you need to check licensing, some of the
> files
> we use have to be downloaded by the users as we are not allowed to
> distribute
> them, so again you would still need import code for those.
> The option of having a single database that you just load what data you
> need
> for the view is good in theory, but the background management of that data
> often ends up not being worth the gains, and often the gains fail to work
> out.
> It could be worth a limited experiment though to investigate and benchmark
> the
> potential gains.  If you do, pick the one big important file used
> everywhere,
> load it to one table, and benchmark any gains or losses.  Don't assume that
> just because a textbook or website says it will be faster that it actually
> will be, you need to prove it.
> I'm not sure who the current maintainer is, but best check with them before
> doing anything too radical :-)  Akarsh Simha would be a good person to get
> an
> opinion from, as would the Marble team who regularly deal with large data
> files.
> John.
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