annemarie.mahfouf at free.fr
Fri May 4 09:27:27 UTC 2012
On 05/04/2012 11:14 AM, Sebastian Gottfried wrote:
> Hi Anne-Marie,
> thanks for the positive feedback :)
>> KDE will soon release 4.9 and thus we have time to consider things for
>> "after 4.9" as the KDE community does not know right now if there will
>> be a 4.10 or if we move to the new kdelibs frameworks (as far as I know).
>> I personally think we should move to your code after 4.9 (and work on
>> it in between):
>> - the code is modern, especially the separation logic/UI
>> - you will maintain it
>> - we have time to sort out problems
> I agree that a release with KDE 4.9 is to soon. Feature freeze is around the
> corner and my code is simply not ready, yet.
> So how should we proceed? Continue working on github for the time being? Or
> import the code into a new branch of the official repository?
Moving the code to KDE git playground/edu.
You need for that to create an identity on
One of the first thing to do then is to port the French keyboard to the
new format so I can really try your app! ;-)
>> Problem to solve:
>> - as Laszlo mentioned, relying on Plasma components is maybe not the
>> best choice. The KDE community has no global solutions for QML
>> components outside Plasma. I tried to raise this problem a few times
>> inside the KDE project but went nowhere. I'll poll other KDE sub
>> projects to see what they use and what is the best approach in the long
>> time and in term of portability. Calligra does not use QML for desktop
>> so far, not sure what KDE Games will do. In KDE Edu we use self-made
>> components in KHangMan and Kanagram. The question so far as I see it is:
>> will each app make it's own QML components or will we have a set of
>> ready-made QML components already available (like the Plasma ones but
>> not relying on Plasma). Could KDE Edu start such a set?
> In my opinion, usage of the Plasma Components is preferable in comparison to
> creating an own widget set for QML.
> All components live either in kde-libs or in kde-runtime, so their are no
> additional dependencies for KDE applications wanting to use them.
> On top of that, they exist and they are maintained. Maintaining a complete
> widget set isn't a trivial task and our development resources are rather
> limited, so I would definitely try to reuse the existing code base.
> Right now QML Plasma Components widgets feel a little bit underpowered in
> direct comparison to their QtWidgets counterparts, especially wrt to pure
> keyboard control and focus management, but I think these deficiencies are
> better rectified than starting over with a new implementation.
> The only real argument I can think of against the usage of QML Plasma
> Components is that they have different look than the traditional QtWidgets.
> But as the Plasma Components are theme-able even this should be solvable.
> I think in the context of KTouch, which relies heavily on custom graphics,
> this is hardly a problem, or at least a rather small problem among lots of
> more important tasks, like the severe feature regressions, so I'm going to
> focus on these first.
Yes. QML on the desktop is not KTouch problem, it's something that would
be best to agree on generally in KDE.
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