[kde-edu]: Math formats in KDE Edu

Aleix Pol aleixpol at kde.org
Mon Jun 7 23:21:08 CEST 2010


On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Alexander Rieder <alexanderrieder at gmail.com
> wrote:

> On Monday 07 June 2010 22:00:13 Aleix Pol wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I've been chatting with a high school teacher discussing how can we use
> KDE
> > Edu to teach math in schools (since it's both our fields).
> > He created some very nice class where he guides the student for one hour
> > explaining some basic math properties using KAlgebra, of course this is
> not
> > ready for use yet but it's a start. The idea is to distribute during the
> > class directly these documents to the students so that they can work
> > themselves with our software. Ideally different teachers will be able to
> > contribute new documents and share themselves content, thus win-win-win
> > situation.
> >
> > I think that we all agree that it is a great way to work until here.
> > Problems:
> > - We don't have a good place to share that kind of stuff.
> >   -> I'm not sure KDE Files fits our needs. It's not free, it's
> > centralized, I'm not sure it's easy to contribute incrementally.
> >   -> we could consider using wikis but they are hard to integrate with
> our
> > software
> >   -> we could do something ourselves but that means work
> >   -> we could use anything I don't know of, so please help :)
> > - We should introduce translation of such content, that leads me to the
> > next point.
> > - Formats are totally fragmented.
> >   -> Cantor worksheets use rich text format which is fine but generating
> > .pot files from that and new cws sounds hard because it's not just plain
> > text. (Albert? any hint)
> >   -> If we propose to use ODT, which is the sanest format in my opinion,
> we
> > are disabling teachers to use Cantor to create the classes. Is it
> possible
> > to export Cantor worksheets to ODT?
> >   -> Does anybody know how hard would it be to make ODT translatable?
> >   -> Does anybody have a better solution than those?
>
> Hi,
> Cantor doesn't use richtext format. It uses a custom file format (I know
> thats
> bad).
> It basically is a zip file containing all the images contained (as png, jpg
> or
> eps files) and a content.xml that is a Cantor specific XML file binding it
> all
> together. I also would like to note that Cantor will soon gain the ability
> have Worksheet Entries that are entirely Rich Text, so we will have to
> store
> that one too.
>
Well, that means we could "easily" export some .pot for translation, no?

Exporting to ODT is not supported, but in the 4.5 version rudimentary export
> to LaTeX  as well as plain text(e.g. to use as a script file) is possible.
>

Is there any reason for not using ODF standards instead of our proprietary
format? do you plan on iterating on that?
why using LaTeX?
Don't you think having cantor as a free math contents hub would be really
nice?


>
> So far the situation on from a Cantor Point of View.
>
> best regards,
> Alexander
>
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