[kde-edu]: KVocTrain-Parlez

Frederik Gladhorn frederik.gladhorn at gmx.de
Thu Sep 20 16:41:13 CEST 2007

Morning all!

Ok, here's my point of view, I guess.
Many of Iljas comments are really good and I implemented some improvements 
thanks to him. That is very good.

But Ilja, your tone does not motivate me. I get the feeling that you demand of 
me to do work. I don't want that. I'm not here to be commanded around.
Some things that you demand are simply wrong.

So my point is: Only negative feedback (welcome too) will not keep me going 
for ever. Please use nicer words, recognize that there is progress, ask 
questions nicely. Your input is valuable! Don't make me ignore it because of 
bad packaging :)

Instead of complaining, I will go back to coding now :)

I wish you all a great day!

There is for example a fine but important distinction between Language and the 
Title. What should people do that practice files containing two columns of 
English? Like word-definition. Should they have to lie about the language? ;)
Also there is a reason why image and sound are not officially there. I added 
both in one afternoon in one place to play around with the gui. They will 
probably not show up in the KDE 4.0 release anyway.

El Thursday 20 September 2007, Anne-Marie Mahfouf escribió:
> Hi Ilja,
> Please be patient with Parley as this program just started!
> Of course we can rename .kvtml files but see, we just reworked the format
> (Frederik and Jeremy did) and we are now testing it. Renaming is a LOT of
> work.  We do all this on our free time and this is not extensible.
> You have very good ideas but we just cannot make them happen in one click
> of our fingers.
> About the website: if you see the commits, Frederik is working on it and
> has been doing so intensively. He just cannot work more quickly!!!
> We need someone to work on the Edu website as some content is obsolete, so
> please any people willing to help, come forward!
> We're all doing our best and we're glad you are interested in Parley.
> However we cannot implement all your ideas or fixe all the bug reports you
> issue in a few days. I want to keep Frederik in the KDE-Edu team and I want
> him having fun working on Parley. He is starting to be a bit downcast and
> overhelmed by your remarks.
> I hope you understand all this.
> Best regards,
> Anne-Marie
> KDE-Edu coordinator
> On Thursday 20 September 2007 14:01:39 Ilja wrote:
> > 2007/9/20, Frederik Gladhorn <frederik.gladhorn at gmx.de>:
> > >> Now, onto my feature requests:
> > >> Sound so I can hear a native speaker say the word.
> > >> Images so I can optionally use an image rather than the native
> > >> language equivalent.
> > >
> > > Both will come pretty soon.
> >
> > Maybe offtopic, but anyway.
> > Currently only relative links to files are saved in new kvtml:
> > ..
> > <image>../../../WinXP/[..]/My Documents/Pure.jpg</image>
> > <sound>../../../WinXP/[..]/My Documents/random.mp3</sound>
> > ..
> > Which is of course isn't the best way to do it.
> >
> > So I hope it will be done like e.g. ODF, it means as an archive where
> > would be "images" and "sounds" directories and current kvtml file, but
> > only with links to files in the same archive? (And so on...)
> >
> > And extension would be changed to e.g. "KVD" (Kde Vocabulary
> > Document)? So much as I understand current .kvtml means
> > something like "KVocTrain Markup Language"?
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