Disallow or discourage use of "AI" tools (Christoph Cullmann)
Justin Zobel
justin at 1707.io
Mon May 19 01:41:38 BST 2025
On 19/05/2025 05:02, Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> On Sonntag, 18. Mai 2025 16:52:00 Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit Christoph
> Cullmann wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 18th, 2025 at 09:12, Albert Vaca Cintora
> <albertvaka at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 18 May 2025, 08:59 Justin Zobel,<justin at 1707.io> wrote:
>>>> If the contributor cannot tell you the license(s) of the code that was
>>>> used to generate the code, then it's literally gambling that this code
>>>> wasn't taken from another project by Gemini and used without their
>>>> permission or used in a way that violates the license and opens up the
>>>> KDE e.V. to litigation.>
>>> I'm no lawyer but I would expect that training AI will fall under fair use
>>> of copyrighted code. If that's not the case already, it will probably be
>>> soon. The benefits of AI to society are too large to autoimpose such a
>>> roadblock.
>> if that would happen, then there is just no copyright protection anymore and
>> all is fair game, I highly doubt that, but yes, that is what companies that
>> want to get rich with deep learning want to have.
> Have I been violating copyright or licenses for decades because I applied the patterns I
> saw in other Free Software code to my code?
No, because you didn't copy/paste the code, you studied it, learned how
it worked, and then wrote your own code.
> And what about stuff I look(ed) up on stackoverflow?
https://stackoverflow.com/help/licensing
> I have applied some of the concepts I learned from writing proprietary code to my Free Software code.
IANAL, but I believe concepts cannot be copyrighted.
> for all we know, Co-Pilot was trained with the entire source code written by Microsoft
Copilot is trained on every piece of code on GitHub, hence why a lot of
projects started migrating away from it.
Regards,
Justin
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