Disallow or discourage use of "AI" tools (Christoph Cullmann)

[Wodsfort]

I think KDE developers shouldn`t use AI

чт, 15 мая 2025 г. в 17:39, Benson Muite <benson_muite at emailplus.org>:

>
> Code contributions made using AI trained on unknown data is problematic.
> KDE does also create a lot of data that could be used to improve KDE. It
> may be good to see if AI or ML tools could use some of this data to improve
> KDE in an ethical manner.
>
> On Thu, May 15, 2025, at 5:09 PM, Felix Ernst wrote:
> > Late reply, but I also wanted to mention that I am 100% in support of
> > any anit-AI messaging and policies we might choose.
> >
> > The wording as linked by Akseli in their first post seems like a good
> > starting point in that regard:
> >
> >>Other projects have already done something similar, see for example:
> https://discourse.gnome.org/t/loupe-no-longer-allows-generative-ai-contributions/27327
> >
> > The only use of AI I support needs all its training data to be licenced
> > in a way that allows use for the AI training e.g. CC0 or WTFPL licence.
> > This way I don't see ethical issues because the copyright holders have
> > then given some sort of consenst for this use.
> >
> > I wouldn't even mind if we went one step further and actively promoted
> > e.g. Plasma as "free of AI". This does not need to be fully true, but
> > this would be more of an activism and marketing angle I would like to
> > see. There is a good chance though that this would not be a good use of
> > our time but it would align with KDE Eco IMO. (I know that there are
> > also great uses of AI, but public messaging needs to be clear and easy
> > to understand, and there is still enough pro-AI marketing out there to
> > the point that taking the opposite stance seems sensible to me.)
> >
> > Have a nice week!
> > Felix
> >
> >  > Date: Tue, 13 May 2025 09:22:22 +0930
> >  > From: Justin Zobel <justin at 1707.io>
> >  >
> >  > I am 100% for this. Most AI tools just scrape (read: steal) code
> > from
> >  > whatever source they can, with no attribution or consideration for
> > legal
> >  > rights/copyright.
> >  >
> >  > Accepting any AI generated code is a legal risk unless the source of
> > the
> >  > code can be verified.
> >  >
> >  > I would wager 99.999% of people using AI tools wouldn't know what
> > the
> >  > source of the code is, or how it is licensed.
> >  >
> >  > On 12/05/2025 22:23, Akseli wrote:
> >  > > Hi
> >  > >
> >  > > There's been a lot of "AI" slop spam to various KDE projects, bug
> > reports, forums, etc..
> >  > >
> >  > > We should take a more public stance on disallowing all this slop.
> > Lengthy gitlab issues that are just full of nonsense generated by a bot
> > just take time out of everyones schedules, trying to decipher if its
> > serious or not.
> >  > >
> >  > > Other projects have already done something similar, see for
> > example:
> https://discourse.gnome.org/t/loupe-no-longer-allows-generative-ai-contributions/27327
> >  > >
> >  > > I don't care if someone uses those tools in their personal
> > projects, but bringing this slop in to our shared space just frustrates
> > people and eats resources to go through.
> >  > >
> >  > > Can we have somekind of official "please don't AI slop in our
> > places" sign somewhere?
> >  > >
> >  > > Thanks,
> >  > > - Akseli
>


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