Disallow or discourage use of "AI" tools (Christoph Cullmann)
Felix Ernst
felixernst at zohomail.eu
Thu May 15 15:09:23 BST 2025
Late reply, but I also wanted to mention that I am 100% in support of any anit-AI messaging and policies we might choose.
The wording as linked by Akseli in their first post seems like a good starting point in that regard:
>Other projects have already done something similar, see for example: https://discourse.gnome.org/t/loupe-no-longer-allows-generative-ai-contributions/27327
The only use of AI I support needs all its training data to be licenced in a way that allows use for the AI training e.g. CC0 or WTFPL licence. This way I don't see ethical issues because the copyright holders have then given some sort of consenst for this use.
I wouldn't even mind if we went one step further and actively promoted e.g. Plasma as "free of AI". This does not need to be fully true, but this would be more of an activism and marketing angle I would like to see. There is a good chance though that this would not be a good use of our time but it would align with KDE Eco IMO. (I know that there are also great uses of AI, but public messaging needs to be clear and easy to understand, and there is still enough pro-AI marketing out there to the point that taking the opposite stance seems sensible to me.)
Have a nice week!
Felix
> Date: Tue, 13 May 2025 09:22:22 +0930
> From: Justin Zobel <justin at 1707.io>
>
> I am 100% for this. Most AI tools just scrape (read: steal) code from
> whatever source they can, with no attribution or consideration for legal
> rights/copyright.
>
> Accepting any AI generated code is a legal risk unless the source of the
> code can be verified.
>
> I would wager 99.999% of people using AI tools wouldn't know what the
> source of the code is, or how it is licensed.
>
> On 12/05/2025 22:23, Akseli wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > There's been a lot of "AI" slop spam to various KDE projects, bug reports, forums, etc..
> >
> > We should take a more public stance on disallowing all this slop. Lengthy gitlab issues that are just full of nonsense generated by a bot just take time out of everyones schedules, trying to decipher if its serious or not.
> >
> > Other projects have already done something similar, see for example:https://discourse.gnome.org/t/loupe-no-longer-allows-generative-ai-contributions/27327
> >
> > I don't care if someone uses those tools in their personal projects, but bringing this slop in to our shared space just frustrates people and eats resources to go through.
> >
> > Can we have somekind of official "please don't AI slop in our places" sign somewhere?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > - Akseli
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