Retirement of IRC Services and KDETalk.net (Jabber)

[Thiago Masato Costa Sueto]

Hello,

I only want to comment on two things:

> Depending on the level of community interest, we may opt to retain
pursuivant however i'd like for it to be rebuilt as a Matrix native service
rather than being a continuation of our existing irker based bot that
occasionally has issues and falls off.

FWIW I always found pursuivant really offputting for some of our groups. In
some of them, like the documentation group, it's possible for the channel
to be flooded with only bot messages for months. I can't really follow
messages there, people who occasionally visit are put off by it and never
see any replies either. It becomes a notification group, not a conversation
group.

If we're turning pursuivant into a Matrix service, I'd also like to ask for
it to be used only on dedicated channels, not in rooms where users are
expected to interact with other community members.

> Telegram is huge popular in Brazil. Our KDE Brasil group has now 608
members, and we have other KDE developers groups in Telegram related to
Brazilian community.

> Maybe if we have a deadline, we can make efforts to migrate the groups
to Matrix. But, if we can not do that properly, we can take a look at
other bots like telegram:t2bot.io [1]

As mentioned we have 608 members. Of course, this also includes lurkers
(inactive members).

I made a recent count and apparently at least 67 are active members. In
comparison, we have 12 Matrix members, all of them active, of which 5 are
only on Matrix and prefer it over Telegram. One of our Brazilian KDE
developers is only on IRC.

Another thing to note is that I agree the current state of the bridge is
NOT fine. The KDE Matrix Bridge bot gets kicked by the appservice bot too
often, forcing me to re-add it, and it keeps sending join/leave
notifications to the Telegram side, sometimes literally hundreds, flooding
the channel. Our users have started to complain about it.

We can pursue an effort to move fully to Matrix as Filipe said, maybe even
stage some collaboration with a local homeserver (bolha.chat) for new
accounts, or we can stay only on Telegram due to popular demand. We haven't
decided yet.

I'd personally be in favor of moving to Matrix.

Regards,
Thiago Sueto

Em sáb., 10 de jun. de 2023 às 09:57, Filipe Saraiva <filipe at kde.org>
escreveu:

> Hello Ben,
>
> Em 21/05/2023 06:37, Ben Cooksley escreveu:
> > Given that we are now fairly well migrated to Matrix, the need to
> > maintain our Telegram bridging is much reduced, and i'd therefore like
> > to retire that without replacement.
> >
>
> Telegram is huge popular in Brazil. Our KDE Brasil group has now 608
> members, and we have other KDE developers groups in Telegram related to
> Brazilian community.
>
> Maybe if we have a deadline, we can make efforts to migrate the groups
> to Matrix. But, if we can not do that properly, we can take a look at
> other bots like telegram:t2bot.io [1]
>
> Best regards;
>
> [1] https://t2bot.io/telegram/
>
> --
> Filipe Saraiva
> http://filipesaraiva.info/
>
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