"Gardening" old bugreports

[AnnoyingRains]

Also, note that we can provide exceptions when doing this, like we have
done with Krita, (excluded from both MR and bug report cleanup). If you
would like your project to be excluded, just let us know!

Thanks
- Kye Potter, KDE Gardening

On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 at 5:07 pm, Laurent Montel <montel at kde.org> wrote:

> Hi,
> For pim* it’s ok for me.
> We have a very old bug, but pim* changed a lot.
> Or some apps are dead (blogilo etc.)
> A lot of bug report are duplicated or obsolete.
>
> Thanks for doing it.
> Regards
>
> Le jeudi 19 janvier 2023, 04:04:45 CET Justin a écrit :
> > Hi Nicolas,
> >
> > This has been discussed with Nate Graham directly who has approved this
> > cleanup of Bugzilla including the messaging behind it.
> >
> > I am happy to discuss any concerns that people have around this. I
> > understand Krita requested we exclude them from any gardening and that
> > has been done, however this is the only feedback I have received.
> >
> > The gardening team aims to find out if the bug reports are still
> > relevant by involving the users who reported them in determining if they
> > are still valid. This increases community involvement and helps KDE as
> > there isn't anywhere near enough manpower to review the thousands upon
> > thousands of bugs that haven't been touched in years.
> >
> > The bugs that we are interacting with are ones that have not had any
> > activity for over 2 years. We are simply trying to reinvigorate
> > discussion on those bugs to see if they are still valid. If the user
> > does not reply within the standard 30 day period after a bug is set to
> > NEEDSINFO, it is automatically closed by the Bug Janitor.
> >
> > I am not simply closing bugs, so I do take offense that care is not
> applied.
> >
> > I will halt it until it is approved by more developers. However if it is
> > decided that it isn't wanted then the KDE as a whole will need to entice
> > more people in sorting old bugs individually as it is clearly not a
> > priority right now for the majority.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Justin
> >
> > On 19/1/23 11:05, Nicolas Fella wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > can we please put the effort of "gardening" old bugreports on hold
> until
> > > we figured out whether this is actually something we want to do?
> Several
> > > people already expressed concerns about this.
> > >
> > > Improperly applied such mass changes can do more harm than good. We may
> > > close bugreports that are actually still useful just because nobody
> > > replied on then in a relatively short timeframe.
> > >
> > > Properly cleaning up old bugreports is important. However, it requires
> > > some level of care and expertise to judge whether a bugreport is still
> > > useful. Judging by the volume of bugreports that is pinged with the
> same
> > > copy&paste message this care is not  applied here.
> > >
> > > At minimum such initiatives should be announced and discussed before
> > > doing them, to allow people to give their input on the proposal. I am
> > > not aware of any such announcement/discussion.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Nicolas
>
>
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