Unified internal communications channel
Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss
joseph at kde.org
Mon Dec 11 11:55:17 GMT 2023
Hi,
as others already mentioned, the issue that prompted this discussion
seems to me not a tooling issue, but a usage one. Nonetheless, it is a
good opportunity to talk about communication channels at KDE and to
identify areas for improvement.
On 12/9/23 13:00, kde-devel-request at kde.org wrote:
>> I had the idea for such a channel before. But I admit that I did not search
>> whether such a channel already exists.
>>
>> I would subscribe to a channel which is readable via email and has messages
>> like these examples:
>> [...]
> I think you touched an important issue there - we should define the scope of
> the proposed communication channel(s) and give guidelines for when and how to
> use them.
>
> There's no use in having another channel if people will end up sidestepping it
> because they were unsure if their topic was relevant.
I like David's proposal of a community-wide channel only for
announcements, with a clear scope, moderation to keep it on-topic, and
links to channels for further discussion. And I agree with Johannes that
well-defined scope can help encourage contributors to provide content!
That said, I also see the issue of adding yet another channel to KDE's
communications infrastructure, at least not without looking at what
channels already exist and how they are used.
I thought about the topic over the weekend. Personally I find it helpful
to identify the organizational structure and then map the tools onto the
structure, not the other way around. To illustrate what I am thinking,
here is a graph showing subset relationships between groups, starting at
everything under the node KDE COMMUNITY. The subsets are obviously far
from perfect, should be reconsidered, and just here as examples. (If
anyone would like to seriously discuss graphing the KDE organization,
please be in touch. I think it would be useful.)
KDE COMMUNITY
/ \
/ \
NON-TECHNICAL TECHNICAL
/ \ / | \
/ \ / | \
USERS CONTR.° VDG PLASMA [...]
/ \
[...] Int.Communities
°Contributors
Assuming this is a useful way of graphing the organizational structure
of KDE (that is just an assumption, I am not committed to this), the
questions for me are then:
- What communication /within/ groups do we want?
- What communication /across/ groups do we want?
+ Which tool(s) would best achieve what we want?
+ Which tool(s) do we already use? Are they achieving what we want?
+ Do we need to add/remove tool(s)? Which ones?
Here are ideas of how I might apply the above approach, using some
examples from earlier in this thread:
- planet.kde.org blogs:
+ Used for communication from "TECHNICAL" to "KDE COMMUNITY".
+ Which other channels (e.g., social media) are used for this
cross-group communication? Are there areas for improvement?
- plasma-devel ML:
+ Used for communication within the "PLASMA" group. Which other
tools are used for this group? Are they all needed?
+ What advantages or disadvantages are there if we added/removed a
tool (e.g., moved this group to Discuss, closed the mailing list, etc.)?
+ How do groups outside PLASMA communicate with this group?
(particularly relevant in this context)
- kde-code-devel and kde-devel MLs:
+ Both seem to fall within "Technical" group (as brought up by Carl)
+ However, they have slightly different scope. Can they be merged?
- kde-community ML:
+ Communication within "CONTRIBUTORS" group
+ How can we move people from the USERS node to the CONTRIBUTORS
one? What communication is needed to achieve this?
+ Would another tool (e.g., Discuss + ML function) be better suited
for this communication, in that it potentially is seen by more users and
the exposure may invite them to join in KDE's non-technical community?
If others here find this a helpful way to discuss it, I am happy to
develop the idea further and make some concrete suggestions. This is
just a sketch for now.
Cheers,
Joseph
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