Exiv2 project submission to the KDE community
alexander.esseling@googlemail.com
alexander.esseling at gmail.com
Thu Mar 11 08:18:10 GMT 2021
Good morning Ben,
for that we would need accounts for the KDE environment which we don't have
at the moment. As far as I understood it so far, they will be created in
the process of onboarding a project. Who can do that?
Cheers,
Alex
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 at 10:07, Ben Cooksley <bcooksley at kde.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 8:23 PM alexander.esseling at googlemail.com <
> alexander.esseling at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Ben & Johannes,
>>
>
> Hi Alex,
>
>
>> Thanks for your replies! In our current situation it would definitely be
>> helpful and much appreciated if there would be a tool available supporting
>> the move into the KDE environment. As there is notimmediate need to move
>> everything to the KDE community, we would be more than happy if you would
>> take the time you need to set up the required infrastructure. Once this
>> topic has been resolved, Robin & I can discuss with the team who will be
>> supporting this move. Currently, we are working with full steam towards the
>> next release of Exiv2 (v.027.4).
>>
>
> No worries.
> If you could please file a Sysadmin ticket at
> https://go.kde.org/systickets then we can certainly look at getting the
> proper importer setup for you.
>
>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Alex & Robin
>>
>
> Cheers,
> Ben
>
>
>>
>> On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 at 08:06, Ben Cooksley <bcooksley at kde.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 1:34 PM Johannes Zarl-Zierl <
>>> johannes at zarl-zierl.at> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Alex & Robin,
>>>>
>>>> [Re-adding the list-address because there are people who know better
>>>> than me
>>>> there and to me it looks like the list was dropped by accident]
>>>>
>>>> > Thank you for your enthusiastic and kind reply. You're right. With no
>>>> plan
>>>> > we meant that we haven't made up our minds for anything beyond fall
>>>> 2021
>>>> > due to the lack of a sustainable maintainer-ship model. That is
>>>> something
>>>> > which needs to be sorted out but at the moment we don't know how!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for clarifying.
>>>>
>>>> > We have seen the incubator process which is on the webpage. How would
>>>> this
>>>> > work?
>>>>
>>>> There are other people on this list that can probably explain better
>>>> than me
>>>> (and who have first-hand experience with the process), but I'll try to
>>>> answer
>>>> to the best of my knowledge:
>>>>
>>>> > Would the Exiv2 project be required to transfer all the history of
>>>> > git, issues, pull request etc. to a new location within the KDE
>>>> environment
>>>> > or could the project stay where it is at the moment?
>>>>
>>>> Short answer: yes, you need to move. @sysadmin: Is the migration tool
>>>> available on invent.kde.org?
>>>>
>>>
>>> At this time we have not done the necessary setup to import
>>> repositories, their merge requests, tasks and other associated information
>>> from GitHub.com.
>>> This shouldn't be too hard to accomplish, but would require some setup
>>> being done in advance of the import being executed.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Longer answer: If your project was not hosted on Github it would
>>>> theoretically
>>>> be possible to remain there, but not very practical.
>>>>
>>>> To look at it from the positive side: only by moving to KDE
>>>> infrastructure you
>>>> can take full advantage of what KDE has to offer you.
>>>>
>>>> I mean knowing that you have financial, organizational, and legal
>>>> support from
>>>> one of the bigger FLOSS communities is cool, but have you ever
>>>> experienced a
>>>> situation where:
>>>>
>>>> * An international team of phenomenal translators take care of all your
>>>> localization needs to the point it almost seems like magic?
>>>>
>>>> * Community members actively triage bugs so that you don't have to deal
>>>> with
>>>> every duplicate bug report yourself?
>>>>
>>>> * The CI not only builds your own software on multiple platforms but
>>>> several
>>>> projects that depend on it - so you get feedback if a change
>>>> accidentally
>>>> breaks downstream projects? (I hope I'm not overselling on this point)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Could you elaborate a
>>>> > bit on the process and what would be required from our end to be
>>>> done? In
>>>> > order to get the resources and plan the transition we would need to
>>>> do some
>>>> > forecasting on the work and plan it accordingly.
>>>>
>>>> That's the part where I kindly refer you to more experienced people on
>>>> this
>>>> list who have sponsored an incubator project before.
>>>>
>>>> > Regarding the applications for grants, that is something very
>>>> interesting
>>>> > but many of us have day-to-day jobs and the question would be if
>>>> someone
>>>> > would leave his job and step into this uncertainty. I don't know if
>>>> someone
>>>> > would do it or not. Mostly likely it would depend on the amount of
>>>> money
>>>> > and security etc.
>>>>
>>>> Understandable. I just wanted to make sure that you are aware of the
>>>> possibility.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Ben
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Johannes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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