help: problems with starting kde2 on cygwin

Ralf Habacker kde-cygwin@mail.kde.org
Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:12:07 +0100


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  -----Original Message-----
  From: kde-cygwin-admin@mail.kde.org
[mailto:kde-cygwin-admin@mail.kde.org]On Behalf Of David Leffler
  Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:38 PM
  To: kde-cygwin@mail.kde.org
  Subject: RE: help: problems with starting kde2 on cygwin


  Here's the command prompt messages



  [~] $ startx

  Set export XSIZE=800|1024|1280 for setting X screen size. The default is
1024 = Screensize 1024X768

  waiting for X server to shut down

  [~] $



  Here’s XWin.log

  [~] $ cat /tmp/XWin.log

  ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens

  winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1280 h 1024

  winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning

  ddxProcessArgument - screen - Found ``WxD'' arg

  _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root

  (EE) Unable to locate/open config file

  InitOutput - Error reading config file

  winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP

  winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed

  winDetectSupportedEngines - Allowing PrimaryDD

  winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed

  winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 0000001f

  InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1

  winSetEngine - Using user's preference: 4

  winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per
pixel

  winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Initial w: 1024 h: 768

  winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 994 1280

  winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar

  winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 994 1280

  winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1024 h 768 r 1024 l 0 b
768 t 0

  winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed -  Returning

  winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Creating primary surface

  winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Created primary surface

  winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Attached clipper to primary surface

  winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - lPitch: 4096

  winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff

  winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
bpp 32

  winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()

  winScreenInit - returning

  (EE) No primary keyboard configured

  (==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard

  Rules = "xfree86" Model = "pc101" Layout = "us" Variant = "(null)" Options
= "(null)"

  [~] $



  All worked well while I have v1.3.12 installed and then broke when I
accidentally allowed CygwinSetup to upgrade to a newer version.  I can see
no error messages.
  [Ralf Habacker]

  That's bad, because I'm using win2000 , so that I can't verify this.
Please tell more about what is broken, which application you have started.
It may help to use the kde faq entry relating to kde2 debugging
http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/faq/kde2.php#D9



   Under 1.3.13 (or 14) I had a bunch of file access errors that caused all
programs that change file permissions to not work.  This is installed under
XP on an NTFS partition.
  [Ralf Habacker]

  That means you have got message ? Please send it to the list. Perhaps you
can anaylse this problems a little bit more.



  Ralf





  David Leffler

  -----Original Message-----
  From: kde-cygwin-admin@mail.kde.org [mailto:kde-cygwin-admin@mail.kde.org]
On Behalf Of Ralf Habacker
  Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 19:01
  To: kde-cygwin@mail.kde.org
  Subject: RE: help: problems with starting kde2 on cygwin



  > Is anyone else having problems starting Cygwin/X?  It worked under

  > Cygwin 1.3.12, but I can't get it to start under any newer versions (up

  > to 1.3.15-2)

  What kind are the problems ? I have followed, that there are some general

  problems with the last cygwin release.



  Ralf



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  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  kde-cygwin-admin@mail.kde.org =
[mailto:kde-cygwin-admin@mail.kde.org]<B>On=20
  Behalf Of</B> David Leffler<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 11, 2002 =
8:38=20
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> kde-cygwin@mail.kde.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: help: =
problems=20
  with starting kde2 on cygwin<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
  <DIV class=3DSection1>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Here's the command prompt =
messages</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
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  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">[~] $ =
startx</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Set export =
XSIZE=3D800|1024|1280 for=20
  setting X screen size. The default is 1024 =3D Screensize=20
  1024X768</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">waiting for X server to shut=20
  down</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">[~] $</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Here&#8217;s XWin.log</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">[~] $ cat =
/tmp/XWin.log</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">ddxProcessArgument - =
Initializing default=20
  screens</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">winInitializeDefaultScreens - =
w 1280 h=20
  1024</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">winInitializeDefaultScreens - =

  Returning</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">ddxProcessArgument - screen - =
Found=20
  ``WxD'' arg</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of =
/tmp/.X11-unix=20
  should be set to root</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">(EE) Unable to locate/open =
config=20
  file</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">InitOutput - Error reading =
config=20
  file</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">winDetectSupportedEngines - =
Windows=20
  NT/2000/XP</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">winDetectSupportedEngines - =
DirectDraw=20
  installed</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">winDetectSupportedEngines - =
Allowing=20
  PrimaryDD</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">winDetectSupportedEngines - =
DirectDraw4=20
  installed</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">winDetectSupportedEngines - =
Returning,=20
  supported engines 0000001f</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 =

  iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">winSetEngine - Using user's =
preference:=20
  4</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL =
- Using=20
  Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Initial=20
  w: 1024 h: 768</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">winAdjustForAutoHide - =
Original WorkArea:=20
  0 0 994 1280</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">winAdjustForAutoHide - Found =
TOP=20
  auto-hide taskbar</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">winAdjustForAutoHide - =
Adjusted WorkArea:=20
  1 0 994 1280</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed -=20
  WindowClient w 1024 h 768 r 1024 l 0 b 768 t 0</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed -&nbsp;=20
  Returning</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL -=20
  Creating primary surface</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL -=20
  Created primary surface</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL -=20
  Attached clipper to primary surface</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - =
lPitch:=20
  4096</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">winFinishScreenInitFB - =
Masks: 00ff0000=20
  0000ff00 000000ff</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - =
Masks 00ff0000=20
  0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 32</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">winCreateDefColormap - =
Deferring to=20
  fbCreateDefColormap ()</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">winScreenInit -=20
  returning</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">(EE) No primary keyboard=20
  configured</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">(=3D=3D) Using compiletime =
defaults for=20
  keyboard</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Rules =3D "xfree86" Model =3D =
"pc101" Layout=20
  =3D "us" Variant =3D "(null)" Options =3D "(null)"</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">[~] $</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
  face=3D"Courier New"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New"><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">All worked well while I have v1.3.12 =
installed and=20
  then broke when I accidentally allowed CygwinSetup to upgrade to a =
newer=20
  version.&nbsp; I can see no error messages.&nbsp; <BR><SPAN=20
  class=3D232040707-12112002><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial>[Ralf=20
  Habacker]&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><SPAN class=3D232040707-12112002>That's bad, =
because I'm=20
  using win2000 , so that I can't verify this. Please tell more about =
what is=20
  broken, which application you have started. It may help to =
use&nbsp;the kde=20
  faq entry relating to kde2 debugging&nbsp;<A=20
  =
href=3D"http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/faq/kde2.php#D9">http://kde-cyg=
win.sourceforge.net/faq/kde2.php#D9</A></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><SPAN=20
  class=3D232040707-12112002></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3D"Courier =
New"><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><SPAN=20
  class=3D232040707-12112002></SPAN></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New"><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><SPAN =
class=3D232040707-12112002>&nbsp;</SPAN>Under=20
  1.3.13 (or 14) I had a bunch of file access errors that caused all =
programs=20
  that change file permissions to not work.&nbsp; This is installed =
under XP on=20
  an NTFS partition.<BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  class=3D232040707-12112002>[Ralf =
Habacker]&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New"><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  class=3D232040707-12112002>That means you have got message ? Please =
send it to=20
  the list. Perhaps you can anaylse this problems a little bit more.=20
  </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New"><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  class=3D232040707-12112002></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New"><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  class=3D232040707-12112002>Ralf </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New"><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  class=3D232040707-12112002></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New"><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">David Leffler</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original Message-----<BR>From:=20
  kde-cygwin-admin@mail.kde.org [mailto:kde-cygwin-admin@mail.kde.org] =
On Behalf=20
  Of Ralf Habacker<BR>Sent: </SPAN></FONT>Friday, November 08, 2002 =
19:01<BR>To:=20
  kde-cygwin@mail.kde.org<BR>Subject: RE: help: problems with starting =
kde2 on=20
  cygwin</P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">&gt; Is anyone else having problems starting =

  Cygwin/X?&nbsp; It worked under</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">&gt; Cygwin 1.3.12, but I can't get it to =
start under=20
  any newer versions (up</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">&gt; to 1.3.15-2)</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">What kind are the problems ? I have =
followed, that=20
  there are some general</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">problems with the last cygwin=20
  release.</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoPlainText><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Ralf</SPAN></FONT></P>
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