Koko in KDEReview

Harald Sitter sitter at kde.org
Mon May 3 15:35:30 BST 2021

On 23.04.21 01:00, Carl Schwan wrote:
>>>>> -   please get a bugzilla produce created for it
>>> Not a fan of that. This will ends up exactly like the www bugs, something
>>> that I look into every 6 months. We already have many issues opened in
>>> invent and it's working fine for us.
>> Did I miss something? The last agreement I recall was that we are using
>> bugzilla for bugs and gitlab for tasks for the time being. If even as
>> developer I have to go hunting where $project tracks their bugs I'm sure
>> not going to be a happy camper.
>>> Also we don't use KCrash.
>> Shouldn't you?
> The problem is that DrKonqi doesn't really work on Plasma Mobile and I don't think
> this justify getting locked up in using Bugzilla. If having a bugzilla product
> is really required, we can request one but I can't guarantee that I will look at it
> more often than I look at the kde-www bug reports in bugzilla (every 6 months).

Let's consider it required then.

If you don't care about crash reports that's your choice I guess, but it
does kinda call into question the product quality since you also don't
have an alternative system to the kcrash-drkonqi-bugzilla caravan. Quite
clearly koko would have benefited from crash tracking and since the only
solution we presently have for that is the aforementioned stack it quite
clearly also would have benefited from being on bugzilla to receive
those crash reports and potentially move to other products if the crash
is not in koko. After all, crashes get submitted to the product that
crashed, not the library of the top most frame.

I have to be honest, it is a bit surreal to even have to argue this. I
get thorough enjoyment out of throwing tomatoes at the current system
but to actively pretend that the problem-domain of crashing software
doesn't exist so you don't have to look at bugzilla sure as heck doesn't
solve anything. In particular since you pitched koko as convergent and
useful on the desktop.

If all that's stopping you from embracing crash tracking is drkonqi then
I am happy to tell you that sticking a mobile-suitable UI on top
shouldn't be all that difficult ;)


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