liquidshell in kdereview

Martin Flöser mgraesslin at
Tue Nov 7 19:55:57 GMT 2017

Am 2017-11-07 20:08, schrieb Martin Koller:
>> Are you aware that KWin uses QtQuick for all its UI elements, such as
>> Alt+TAB?
> I have deactivated the compositor since sadly it simply does not work
> on my laptop (the intel graphics driver just freezes the whole 
> machine).

I did not talk about compositor, I talked about QtQuick! Yes, KWin uses 
QtQuick for rendering it's UI, that is unrelated to compositing.

Now you mention that your intel graphics driver freezes the whole 
system. I'm using Intel on all my systems and it's the most used driver 
out there. We get many, many, many bug reports in KWin about issues. 
Freezing systems has not been in the list for now something like two 

Given that I am very certain that you have a hardware issue where people 
can help you with. Intel GPUs are good enough to run the Plasma session 
without any negative impact.

So let us help you fix your issues that you can enjoy our work without 
having to spend time on writing your own shell.

First thing: are you using the xorg-modesettings driver? If not: install 
it, problems solved. Do not (I repeat) do not use the xorg-intel driver.

For kernel I recommend at least version 4.13 as this comes with the 
atomic modesettings driver stack enabled by default. If you do not have 
such a kernel version yet I highly recommend to give it a try.

As another possible solution I provide something very radical: use 
Wayland. My experience is that the system works way more reliable and 
nicer on Intel. I had several issues with Xorg and Intel, I have none on 


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