CI Requirements - Lessons Not Learnt?

Scarlett Clark scarlett.gately.clark at
Wed Jan 11 17:32:48 GMT 2017

I have no problem adding a rolling release image to the stack like arch.
Perhaps have this build master and stable - > lts image ?

On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 8:11 AM, Martin Gräßlin <mgraesslin at> wrote:

> Am 2017-01-11 13:40, schrieb Jan Kundrát:
>> On středa 11. ledna 2017 6:57:50 CET, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
>>> That doesn't work. Such inflexibility take away the advantage of having
>>> a CI.
>> What base system(s) do you prefer to target as a developer, Martin?
> We release software which will be combined with a future set of software.
> E.g. for KWin it has always been a problem that we develop against e.g.
> Mesa X, but it will be combined by the distros with Mesa X+1, which hasn't
> seen any testing from our side.
> This resulted in lots of issues. For me as the maintainer of a high profile
> application for our users the main need is to combine with the dependencies
> the next version of KWin will use in real world.
> This means: latest and greatest released software. Ideally fast rolling
> release distributions.
> Now that is for KWin master, for KWin stable or KWin LTS, the base doesn't
> matter that much.
> And I think KWin is there different to other software we have. We hardly
> anywhere have the need for the latest and greatest. KWin needs it as it
> gets
> integrated with it by the distros anyway.
> An example is currently Xwayland. I would love to have a runtime
> dependency to the
> latest released version as it fixes various issues. It will also be what
> will be used
> by the next distributions, but we don't have it yet on our stable base. It
> means I have
> to carry workarounds around, it means we have to put into the release
> announcement that
> it should be combined with this version.
> As I mentioned in another mail to this thread: KWin is pushing the stack.
> Whether we like it or not. And I must say it's frustrating.
> Cheers
> Martin
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