State of Audio CD support in KDE

[Alexander Neundorf]

On Wednesday, September 30, 2015 05:33:20 Boudhayan Gupta wrote:
> Hi Albert (and others),
> 
> On 30 September 2015 at 04:09, Albert Astals Cid <aacid at kde.org> wrote:
> >> In terms of support for Audio CDs in KDE,
> >> 
> >> * K3B can write them.
> >> * Phonon the API can play them, with some minor but weird bugs.
> >> 
> >> And that's it.
> > 
> > Does solid offer some support?
> > I guess at least it can say how many drives are there
> > but maybe nothing related to Audio-CD itself?
> 
> Solid is interesting. It can detect the number of drives in the
> system, and it can tell us if the CD inside is an Audio CD.
> 
> We can also subscribe to signals from Solid that notify is the disc is
> ejected, but there's no signal in Solid::OpticalDrive to notify if a
> new disc was inserted. Maybe it's a small patch that can be worked on?
> 
> >> I think we need to take a long hard look at the state of support for
> >> Red Book CDs in KDE and decide:
> >> 
> >> a) Do we still want to support them, and
> >> b) If yes, to what degree do we support them?
> > 
> > I'd say we totally want to support them. The question is if there's
> > something that can be shared in an library or should it be app specific.
> > 
> > The things i can think of doing with an Audio-CD are:
> >  * ripping it
> >  * playing it
> >  * copying it to another Audio-CD
> > 
> > Ripping and playing have some "common" stuff that is:
> >  * Finding the CD drive that actually has a Audio-CD inside (if you have
> >  muliple drivers and others>  
> >    are either empty or have data CDs)
> >  
> >  * Listing the number of tracks and their info (cddb, or whatever)
> >  * Extracting data to either feed it to the player or ripper
> > 
> > So I think that having a library that those these 3 basic things is a good
> > thing, once we have it we can see how to make it used in kio-audiocd,
> > kaudiocreator, kscd or whatever cd apps we decide to have.
> > 
> > I can't think of a "common" stuff between copying and and ripping/playing.
> 
> So here's the situation:
> 
> Ripping and playing have some commonality in them, in that they both
> need access to raw PCM data from the disc. Phonon seems to have pretty

back in the days you just had to tell the CD drive to start playing and it 
played, without the CPU having to do anything :-)

> good playback support (I'll file bug reports for the bugs I've been
> mentioning) - so if you have an app that uses Phonon you've got
> support for playing back CDs. Let's not reinvent that wheel, but round
> it out if there are flat spots.
> 
> Now information and ripping. KCDDB seems to be in pretty good shape
> (kdelibs4 though) - for getting data about the CD from CDDB servers.
> Whatever work I've done for the libKCompactDisc nextgen branch, I can
> extract raw PCM data from the disc and also read CD-TEXT information
> to find whatever data is embedded in the disc.
> 
> kaudiocreator seems to be using CDParanoia directly, as is
> audiocd-kio. I tried to start a basic port of audiocd-kio to kf5
> today, but audiocd-kio is also trying to do too much, because I've
> been looking through the code and it has converters for MP3, FLAC and
> OGG in it.
> 
> What I would suggest is:
> 
> 1: Let Phonon do the playing
> 2: Let k3b do the copying
> 3: Let Solid do all the disc detection
> 4: Consolidate libKCDDB and libKCompactDisc into an all-in-one
> disc-info and raw-data-from-CD library
> 5: Write a new, very small cdda kioslave that just exposes the audio
> files on the CD as a set of wav files. We can re-use code from the
> current audiocd-kio.

So how will I turn my audio cd into ogg or mp3 ?
I use and like that functionality a lot.

Alex